Anyone else think this frame is a loss, correct?
11-18-11, 12:01 PM
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Anyone else think this frame is a loss, correct?
You know: you see the price and think, "What?" and then the (cue ominous music) the description. . .
The seller thinks so. I think so. Sorry if I put you off your lunch. . . .
That really sucks.
The seller thinks so. I think so. Sorry if I put you off your lunch. . . .
That really sucks.
11-18-11, 12:17 PM
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I had to look at the whole album to see the other pics to realize this is the right seatstay on a CAAD9.
I would not buy it. I am not an expert on such repairs but that is the middle of a very unusually shaped bit of tubing and it seems unlikely.
However, the seatstay probably does not bear a great deal of load. That's the only positive I can think of.
I would not buy it. I am not an expert on such repairs but that is the middle of a very unusually shaped bit of tubing and it seems unlikely.
However, the seatstay probably does not bear a great deal of load. That's the only positive I can think of.
11-18-11, 12:21 PM
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If it were my bike originally, I'd ride it and just watch for cracking. Nothing about that area of the frame will fail catastrophically. I wouldn't buy it for anything.
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11-18-11, 12:31 PM
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11-18-11, 12:32 PM
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If that were carbon it'd be perfectly repairable.....
11-18-11, 12:33 PM
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Same here, if it was mine or a free frame, I'd ride it and keep an eye on it. I might even spend $20 for it if I could pick it up locally. That's about it.
11-18-11, 12:35 PM
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The damage on the stay is not a big deal. Agree with Brian Ratliff- if it were mine, I wouldn't care and just watch it.
However, that one impact does not mean alot EXCEPT it may have tweaked the rear triangle.
Meaning, the rear wheel may no longer be centered or you may experience some handling problems.
It's a crapshoot to buy a damaged frame. If it's really cheap and you must have it, maybe it's worth the gamble-
just know full-well you may end up tossing the frame into the trash.
However, that one impact does not mean alot EXCEPT it may have tweaked the rear triangle.
Meaning, the rear wheel may no longer be centered or you may experience some handling problems.
It's a crapshoot to buy a damaged frame. If it's really cheap and you must have it, maybe it's worth the gamble-
just know full-well you may end up tossing the frame into the trash.
11-18-11, 12:53 PM
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But just toolin around, close enough to make the call of shame, Eddy would go...
Cheap enough, it would make a decent rain bike
That stay ding can certainly be filled in. The seat stay gets mostly all 'Compression' forces so liberal use of JB Weld and some sanding til smooth aand then some judicious rattle-can.
Prolly even OK for Crit.
I raced a similar injured Orero for 2 seasons back in 73-74 prolly upwards of 80+ races.
It was fine, and even went to another rider who rode it for years. Course it was 531SL and repaired by Ramon...
But seatstay, would be the least problem area for a ding.
A 'Not Clyde' would be fine on it.
That pic of the brakebridge though... I'd check that, if it's cracked then all bets are off - Brake Bridge, very important. If it's just dirty/crusty, then fine...
11-18-11, 01:15 PM
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That'll buff right out :thumbs:
But seriously...I won't be overly concerned, consistent check for cracks should suffice! I'll pay maybe, $30 to putz around in.
But seriously...I won't be overly concerned, consistent check for cracks should suffice! I'll pay maybe, $30 to putz around in.
11-18-11, 02:01 PM
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I looked at that a couple of days ago. I would only buy it for the parts and then maybe take a gamble on riding it once I checked it out first-hand, but it's overpriced.
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11-18-11, 02:22 PM
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Aren't the CAD9 frames designed for the stays to absorb some shock? The ding would affect how the stay flexes and create a stress concentrator. Wouldn't fail right away, but I'd be afraid of it failing in a year or so. That said, it's not going to shatter. A crack might take weeks to propagate far enough to be a problem. So, I'd ride it while I rounded up another frame, but I sure wouldn't buy it that way.
Actually, carbon *would* be easier to repair.
Actually, carbon *would* be easier to repair.
11-18-11, 02:39 PM
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11-18-11, 03:02 PM
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Kinda wondering, actually, how that might of happened.
11-18-11, 03:26 PM
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I wouldn't risk my life on it. Going 35-40 downhill and trying to avoid obstacles if any. Disaster waiting to happen.
11-18-11, 03:32 PM
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The stays absorb less shock than you think. The stays deflect (flex) much less than you think. CF stays dampen vibrations, they don't act as a shock absorber. Curved aluminum stays are the same way.
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11-18-11, 03:34 PM
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I've seen similar damage come from bike race crashes. Bikes get tangled and stuff get bent or broken.
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11-18-11, 03:35 PM
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