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Clipless pedals and shoes; Road vs Mountain

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Old 11-29-11, 12:24 PM
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I have SPD pedals on all my bikes. I have noticed, on long/hard road rides that the contact area of my sole heats up. So, I just bought a pair of these:

https://www.amazon.com/Shimano-XT-PD-.../dp/B0058ZCDHU

Compatible with all my SPD shoes, while increasing the contact area between shoe and pedal. I immediately noticed an improvement. Reasonably priced, a bit heavy.
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Originally Posted by abstractform20
all the anecdotal evidence form self professed "old timers" can be refuted by former competitive cyclists that stick with road specific shoes and pedals...
...which competitive cyclists??? Do you know anyone personally?
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I use SPD but I get nervous every time I stand up on pedals on hills fearing my shoes may unclip and I may cause serious injury.It hasn't happen yet but SPD are designed for easy un-cliping.This is true but same factor may work against you.
I am seriously thinking of going back to road shoes because they seem more solidly clipped.
This could be very well unfounded fear on my part but again SPD makes me nervous
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Originally Posted by abstractform20
all the anecdotal evidence form self professed "old timers" can be refuted by former competitive cyclists that stick with road specific shoes and pedals...
I suppose I might be an 'old timer' and I'm a current 'competitive cyclist' (if you can call what I do 'competing'). Now maybe not being a former 'competitive cyclist' renders my opinion moot, but I use road and mtb systems depending upon what I'm doing and where I'm going. I also recommend MTB pedal systems for anybody inexperienced enough to not know which to pick.

I also know a former Cat 2 who rides eggbeaters all the time.
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I also know a current cat2 who uses SPD mountain shoes and pedals for most of his training and riding. Don't think he does on race day, however.
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Originally Posted by Rubo
I use SPD but I get nervous every time I stand up on pedals on hills fearing my shoes may unclip and I may cause serious injury.It hasn't happen yet but SPD are designed for easy un-cliping.This is true but same factor may work against you.
I am seriously thinking of going back to road shoes because they seem more solidly clipped.
This could be very well unfounded fear on my part but again SPD makes me nervous
When I was using Crank Brothers on everything, I was afraid that as long as I kept my feet mostly pointed straight, I could pull the bolts out of the shoes before they would unclip accidentally.

Fortunately, I'm not that strong.
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I've used SPDs on mountain and touring bikes for the walkability factor. Also, the SPDs allowed my foot to rotate laterally (rotating down left/right) which was great for mountain biking. However, this same motion caused me knee pain when using them on my road bike. So, for the road bike I use SPD-SL which are Look-style and hold my foot firmly. They do allow about 4 degrees of float but no lateral rotation. My next pedal/cleat system will be Speedplay Zero. I've tested them and love 'em! Just no moola now to get them.
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Originally Posted by Rubo
I use SPD but I get nervous every time I stand up on pedals on hills fearing my shoes may unclip and I may cause serious injury....This could be very well unfounded fear on my part but again SPD makes me nervous
I think your fears are unfounded. If people were coming unclipped at the wrong time, crashing, and getting hurt, you'd have heard about it here - and you might have heard about it in the news, as people would certainly sue over a faulty, injury-causing pedal design.

All clipless pedals, road and mtb, work on the same principle, no matter what their specific designs: you can't pull out of them by pulling up on them.
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I stick with 2-bold SPD pedals because, as far as I can see, combination campus-style pedals (platform one side, clipless on the other) only come in SPD at anything close to a reasonable price.

That lets me run campus pedals on my commuter, and SPD pedals on my other bike, and not have to completely dedicate the a pair of shoes to one bike.

I currently have road shoes, but plan to get some MTB shoes for better walking.
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Originally Posted by RichardGlover
I stick with 2-bold SPD pedals because, as far as I can see, combination campus-style pedals (platform one side, clipless on the other) only come in SPD at anything close to a reasonable price.
I've seen pedals with platforms (well, a platform with toeclips n' straps) on one side and SPD-SL or Look (I'm not sure) on the other. They were on spin bikes at a gym, and it took some digging to find them for sale online (I think Amazon had them).
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I know it has been a while. I kind of forgot about this thread. I went with Shimano M520 pedals and Shimano M087 shoes. They work great.
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MTB pedals usually don't have as large a platform. So if you will be going on longer rides I would get the road pedals. (I started off with SPD pedals on both my MTB and Road Bike.) Now I use road pedals and it has made a big difference in comfort for me.
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Originally Posted by Beau210
MTB pedals usually don't have as large a platform. So if you will be going on longer rides I would get the road pedals. (I started off with SPD pedals on both my MTB and Road Bike.) Now I use road pedals and it has made a big difference in comfort for me.
Yes and no. You can get some seriously huge platforms in MTB clipless, generally intended for downhill use but some people ride them in all conditions. Something like a Crank Brothers Mallet. You can also get small lumps, some of the Shimano low-end road & MTB pedals look very similar. And of course you can get what's basically a spindle with a cleat, a Crank Brothers Eggbeater.
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Originally Posted by Lexi01
I was using Shimano M087 and I changed to the road version (R087).

I still use the M087s on the hybrid as I trend to ride shorter distances on that bike. The pain still returns if I go much over the 50km mark. But with the road version (on road pedals of course) I can go as far as I want without any pain - in my foot at least!
I know this isn't my original post but I hope the OP doesn't mind me providing an update...

I just upgraded my shoes from Shimano R087s to Shimano R315s and wow. The difference in comfort and efficiency is very noticeable.
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Platforms are not needed if the soles of the shoes are adequately stiff. People spend as much time riding and pedaling mtbs as people do on road bikes.
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Originally Posted by Lexi01
I know this isn't my original post but I hope the OP doesn't mind me providing an update...

I just upgraded my shoes from Shimano R087s to Shimano R315s and wow. The difference in comfort and efficiency is very noticeable.
Good to know. Thanks!
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