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Old 01-08-12, 06:36 PM
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Foot hits front tire during turns?

this is my bike [mines on the left]:

I find that my foot hits the front tire on sharp turns occasionally, quite annoying.

my husbands [his bike on the right] foot doesnt even come close to scraping his front tire.

what's the deal? does this happen with your bike ever? what am I not doing right or is it the bike?

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I can get my toe to touch the tire in the most extreme handlebar position and my pedal in the right spot, but I have never had it happen while riding around. I never turn my bars that sharply in real life.
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Toe overlap. Not uncommon with small frames and 700c tires.
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Happens to me all the time.
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Happens with probably close to 50% of road bikes depending on frame size and geometry. Usually occurs on a 54 or 56 and below. Keep your foot at the 6 or 12 position when making really sharp turns at slow speed and your foot won't hit.

When turning at speed this won't happen.
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My frame is a 52cm and my toe hits the front tire, quite annoying.
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At slow, sharp turns it happens to me. But these are extreme turns, like a u-turn or going slowly around an obstacle. I think all you need to do is get used to it; be aware that when you turn left, your right foot could touch (if it's nearly leveled at 180 degrees/parallel to the ground), and if you're turning right then your left foot could touch. That being said, you just need to get used to the positioning of your foot so that it's cleared from the tire/wheel and vice versa. And also when counter-steering! (Might just be me, but that's usually when it happens to me, because I forget the opposite foot needs to be cleared too when counter steering)

It's kinda similar to how we learn to put the inside pedal up when we're leaning into a turn.

And nice bike, btw.

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All one needs to do is practice and anticipate in time. If clipped in one can unclip and move your foot back on the pedal so there is no toe out past the front of the pedal,just when needed.
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It doesn't happen when it's important…ie..going fast..you'll be ok.
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This is why they make women's/small frame bikes with 650c and 24" wheels. If I can find one that fits me, my next bike might be a 650c bike (and I'm a man).
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When taking sharp turns keep the foot thats at the inside of the turn at 12 o clock. I've seen noobs take sharp turns with their foot at 6 o clock and scrape the pedal and almost eat it, guy i saw do it his rear tire got off the ground.
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Yes it is called toe overlap.

All my bikes have it.

Only an issue when turning at VERY slow speeds, once you are aware of the potential you just have to coast or "ratchet pedal."

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Originally Posted by wkg
Happens with probably close to 50% of road bikes depending on frame size and geometry. Usually occurs on a 54 or 56 and below. Keep your foot at the 6 or 12 position when making really sharp turns at slow speed and your foot won't hit.

When turning at speed this won't happen.
BTW my bikes run 63ish cm and have toe overlap. But this is custom geometry with relatively short top tubes.
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Small bike, big wheels. That's just the way it is. If it bugs you, get a Terry.
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Those toe-clips probably dont help much....they certainly protrude a bit.
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No yo don't need a Terry, but you could reduce the chance of hitting your foot by simply going with a 650c wheels instead of 700c. The other option is to go to a smaller crank, but go to this site first to find out is you need to: https://www.machinehead-software.co.u...alculator.html because you might have the correct size crank arm so don't change it if you don't have too. Doing both, assuming your crank arms are too long, should give you all the clearance you need, at least more then you have now.

Most small frame bikes come with 650c wheels because of the problem your having.
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Ignore everyone else. It is totally you doing something wrong. This is what led Japanese women into tying their toes into very small bundles, and you can see the massive advantage it has given them in competitive cycling. Lance is actually a light skinned Japanese woman.
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Originally Posted by rekmeyata
Most small frame bikes come with 650c wheels because of the problem your having.
Almost no small frame road bikes come with 650c wheels anymore.
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Originally Posted by rekmeyata
No yo don't need a Terry, but you could reduce the chance of hitting your foot by simply going with a 650c wheels instead of 700c.
Believe it or not 650c wheels are what come on smaller sized Terry bikes these days. She hasn't done the 24" front wheel for a little while now.
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Only time it's an issue for me is if I stop and have my wheel turned such that it's trickier clipping in.

It's not an issue when I'm moving.
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I have overlap on my 53cm. Used to bother me when I was first learning trackstands. It was even worse when I ran full fenders.

The nice thing about overlap is that it's impossible to make it happen when riding over 8 mph.

Well, I guess it is possible but if you turn your wheel that much at speed then you'll have problems unrelated to toe overlap.
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Don't worry about it and ride your bike. Try not to catch your toes on the wheel, but it's not a big deal if you do.
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the toe clips don't help, that's for sure.
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Originally Posted by wrr1020
When taking sharp turns keep the foot thats at the inside of the turn at 12 o clock. I've seen noobs take sharp turns with their foot at 6 o clock and scrape the pedal and almost eat it, guy i saw do it his rear tire got off the ground.
At the speed that toe overlap happens, you won't be leaning much, if it at all, for that to be a problem.
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to those saying all bikes have toe overlap...I do NOT have overlap on my frame....57cm...shoe size 11.5


nice bike BTW
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