Wilier-zero 7 or Scott foil..
01-26-12, 03:46 PM
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Wilier-zero 7 or Scott foil..
I'm about to purchase a new frame. Any feedback from this 2 will help. Willier-zero 7 ot Scott foil ? Or any other suggestions! Thanks......
01-26-12, 04:13 PM
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Eep. If you had thrown one of them fancy BMC's in there you would literally be asking about the only 3 carbon frames I actually like right now... I'd say Wilier, just because I like them a lot, but the Scott sure is sexy... What components are you shooting for? If you go Campy, Wilier without a doubt!
01-26-12, 04:37 PM
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Ten posts in two years. Wow. Lots of choices in that price range, but I'm partial to Wilier. Just please don't colour coordinate the wheelset and groupo like how the company's got it set up; IOW, tone it down a little.
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I know. Old thread. But recently visiting this site.
Own two cento UNOs. One standard and one Superleggera. Just found a crack on the standard on, so was looking at the zero.7. Will be trying one at my lbs in the next day or so.
Haven't ridden the Foil, so can't really moment. Just saying that I really lov the Wilier cento UNOs.
Own two cento UNOs. One standard and one Superleggera. Just found a crack on the standard on, so was looking at the zero.7. Will be trying one at my lbs in the next day or so.
Haven't ridden the Foil, so can't really moment. Just saying that I really lov the Wilier cento UNOs.
07-11-12, 08:48 AM
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I've got about 400 miles on my Zero7 now, and I'm loving it. (although I'm still waiting on a few parts to get it finalized the way I want).
It's insanely light. (it will be about 13.5 lbs when complete, with an XL sized frame)
It's also extremely stiff in the BB and front end, compared to my Giant TCR team Advanced, which I think is a reasonably stiff bike.
I think Willier is on to something with the BB386EVO. It's huge, accounting for the stiffness in the BB, and will take either a standard crank or a BB30 crank.
I can't say that I can really perceive a comfort advantage from the SEI film. That said, the bike doesn't feel any less comfortable than my Giant, and at the same time is definitely stiffer. so perhaps, the SEI is adding some comfort to compensate for the stiffness. Also, the SEI film allegedly makes it more impact resistant.
I'm truly amazed that they can make a sub 800 gram frame that feels amazingly stiff with a 200lb rider.
And aesthetically, I think the finish on the frame looks better in person than shows up in pics.
Only negative I have so far is that the shape of the chain stays are such that my heel occassionally rubs, which may be unique to my foot position, and using Speedplay X series pedals.
It's insanely light. (it will be about 13.5 lbs when complete, with an XL sized frame)
It's also extremely stiff in the BB and front end, compared to my Giant TCR team Advanced, which I think is a reasonably stiff bike.
I think Willier is on to something with the BB386EVO. It's huge, accounting for the stiffness in the BB, and will take either a standard crank or a BB30 crank.
I can't say that I can really perceive a comfort advantage from the SEI film. That said, the bike doesn't feel any less comfortable than my Giant, and at the same time is definitely stiffer. so perhaps, the SEI is adding some comfort to compensate for the stiffness. Also, the SEI film allegedly makes it more impact resistant.
I'm truly amazed that they can make a sub 800 gram frame that feels amazingly stiff with a 200lb rider.
And aesthetically, I think the finish on the frame looks better in person than shows up in pics.
Only negative I have so far is that the shape of the chain stays are such that my heel occassionally rubs, which may be unique to my foot position, and using Speedplay X series pedals.
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07-11-12, 04:31 PM
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But that Wilier frame set is like $5,500!
07-11-12, 11:23 PM
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I've got about 400 miles on my Zero7 now, and I'm loving it. (although I'm still waiting on a few parts to get it finalized the way I want).
It's insanely light. (it will be about 13.5 lbs when complete, with an XL sized frame)
It's also extremely stiff in the BB and front end, compared to my Giant TCR team Advanced, which I think is a reasonably stiff bike.
I think Willier is on to something with the BB386EVO. It's huge, accounting for the stiffness in the BB, and will take either a standard crank or a BB30 crank.
I can't say that I can really perceive a comfort advantage from the SEI film. That said, the bike doesn't feel any less comfortable than my Giant, and at the same time is definitely stiffer. so perhaps, the SEI is adding some comfort to compensate for the stiffness. Also, the SEI film allegedly makes it more impact resistant.
I'm truly amazed that they can make a sub 800 gram frame that feels amazingly stiff with a 200lb rider.
And aesthetically, I think the finish on the frame looks better in person than shows up in pics.
Only negative I have so far is that the shape of the chain stays are such that my heel occassionally rubs, which may be unique to my foot position, and using Speedplay X series pedals.
It's insanely light. (it will be about 13.5 lbs when complete, with an XL sized frame)
It's also extremely stiff in the BB and front end, compared to my Giant TCR team Advanced, which I think is a reasonably stiff bike.
I think Willier is on to something with the BB386EVO. It's huge, accounting for the stiffness in the BB, and will take either a standard crank or a BB30 crank.
I can't say that I can really perceive a comfort advantage from the SEI film. That said, the bike doesn't feel any less comfortable than my Giant, and at the same time is definitely stiffer. so perhaps, the SEI is adding some comfort to compensate for the stiffness. Also, the SEI film allegedly makes it more impact resistant.
I'm truly amazed that they can make a sub 800 gram frame that feels amazingly stiff with a 200lb rider.
And aesthetically, I think the finish on the frame looks better in person than shows up in pics.
Only negative I have so far is that the shape of the chain stays are such that my heel occassionally rubs, which may be unique to my foot position, and using Speedplay X series pedals.
07-16-12, 06:03 PM
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I'll be the 1% here, I'd take the FOIL.
2 things:
1. Geometry would work for me - traditional works for me.
2. I like the aggressive but sleek lines of the frame
You're more likely to take the Willier though because you have one already.
2 things:
1. Geometry would work for me - traditional works for me.
2. I like the aggressive but sleek lines of the frame
You're more likely to take the Willier though because you have one already.
07-17-12, 01:28 AM
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i recently bought the scott addict r1 frame.. so i would pick scott foil. now if BMC was in the mix... i might just pick BMC. but either one are sexy as hell.. so its all good 
07-17-12, 10:58 AM
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I can't comment on the Wilier, I can personally attest that the FOIL is a straight-up race bike. The FOIl is as stiff as a bridge truss, has a short wheelbase and a short head tube. It will rattle your fillings on rough pavement and unless you're running a stack of spacers, you're looking at some hefty bar drop. On the other hand, it's great for diving for the apex in a crit or sprinting. It's even stiffer than the Addict and fairly uncompromising. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it for for centuries. Personally, I love it. IMO, it's the best looking frame on the market and it's the best stand-up effort bike I've ever ridden.
07-17-12, 11:04 AM
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I've got about 400 miles on my Zero7 now, and I'm loving it. (although I'm still waiting on a few parts to get it finalized the way I want).
It's insanely light. (it will be about 13.5 lbs when complete, with an XL sized frame)
It's also extremely stiff in the BB and front end, compared to my Giant TCR team Advanced, which I think is a reasonably stiff bike.
I think Willier is on to something with the BB386EVO. It's huge, accounting for the stiffness in the BB, and will take either a standard crank or a BB30 crank.
I can't say that I can really perceive a comfort advantage from the SEI film. That said, the bike doesn't feel any less comfortable than my Giant, and at the same time is definitely stiffer. so perhaps, the SEI is adding some comfort to compensate for the stiffness. Also, the SEI film allegedly makes it more impact resistant.
I'm truly amazed that they can make a sub 800 gram frame that feels amazingly stiff with a 200lb rider.
And aesthetically, I think the finish on the frame looks better in person than shows up in pics.
Only negative I have so far is that the shape of the chain stays are such that my heel occassionally rubs, which may be unique to my foot position, and using Speedplay X series pedals.
It's insanely light. (it will be about 13.5 lbs when complete, with an XL sized frame)
It's also extremely stiff in the BB and front end, compared to my Giant TCR team Advanced, which I think is a reasonably stiff bike.
I think Willier is on to something with the BB386EVO. It's huge, accounting for the stiffness in the BB, and will take either a standard crank or a BB30 crank.
I can't say that I can really perceive a comfort advantage from the SEI film. That said, the bike doesn't feel any less comfortable than my Giant, and at the same time is definitely stiffer. so perhaps, the SEI is adding some comfort to compensate for the stiffness. Also, the SEI film allegedly makes it more impact resistant.
I'm truly amazed that they can make a sub 800 gram frame that feels amazingly stiff with a 200lb rider.
And aesthetically, I think the finish on the frame looks better in person than shows up in pics.
Only negative I have so far is that the shape of the chain stays are such that my heel occassionally rubs, which may be unique to my foot position, and using Speedplay X series pedals.
07-17-12, 11:59 AM
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Yeah, the nominal sizing seems a bit odd. An XL Willier has the same effective top tupe as Medium/Large Giant. (57cm) Willier does make an XXL with a 58.5cm effective TT.
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Are you planning on buying just a frame or a whole bike?
I hear that Scott is out of Foil framesets for the year and that the stock on full bikes is going quickly.
I hear that Scott is out of Foil framesets for the year and that the stock on full bikes is going quickly.
07-18-12, 12:32 AM
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07-18-12, 06:51 AM
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I would read the review of the Wiler in Peloton Magazine.
https://www.pelotonmagazine.com/Teste...1-Video-Review
https://www.pelotonmagazine.com/Teste...1-Video-Review
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