Is Shimano ever going to make BB30 cranksets?
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Is Shimano ever going to make BB30 cranksets?
Anyone have any idea if they intend on ignoring BB30 forever or if they'll ever start making BB30 cranksets? If so, when?
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Their ignoring BB30 and from everything I've ever heard they won't ever make a BB30 crankset.
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It's owned by Cannondale, and is an open standard. I.e. FSA and SRAM can (and do) manufacture BB30s without paying royalties to Cannondale. Shimano could also, but has apparently chosen not to. Pretty dumb decision, IMO, as there's definitely a market...
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I hope not. Why move the market towards a standard with no benefit? New tools, creaks, minimal weight savings... no idea what the perceived benefit is over external BB's. I rather doubt that any of us have the ability to notice any extra stiffness. I bet that is Shimano's thought as well.
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Why would they bother? They have their own 'standard' (as usual) for 'internally mounted bearings', 'BB86' or whatever the hell it's called; Giant (among others) uses it.
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There is no need to adopt it so why do it? They're doing very well with their own BB design.
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Just seems it couldn't hurt to make both BB86 and BB30, as tons of bikes are BB30 and have to use FSA/SRAM.
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Just pop in one of the many adapters and you are good to go with Shimano....
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That is simply to misunderstand Shimano's marketing strategies and tactics. They are not interested; rather, the Big S prefers to insist on its own standards, moving as far as possible toward 'integrated' (and proprietary) systems where drivetrains are concerned. The fact that their designs are frequently superior (e.g. BB86 vs. BB30) is neither here nor there.
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e.g. Cannondale puts FSA cranksets on their bikes, would have to take it off, sell it, and buy Shimano+adapter and be at a loss in terms of money (more than likely).
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That is simply to misunderstand Shimano's marketing strategies and tactics. They are not interested; rather, the Big S prefers to insist on its own standards, moving as far as possible toward 'integrated' (and proprietary) systems where drivetrains are concerned. The fact that their designs are frequently superior (e.g. BB86 vs. BB30) is neither here nor there.
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That is simply to misunderstand Shimano's marketing strategies and tactics. They are not interested; rather, the Big S prefers to insist on its own standards, moving as far as possible toward 'integrated' (and proprietary) systems where drivetrains are concerned. The fact that their designs are frequently superior (e.g. BB86 vs. BB30) is neither here nor there.
Don't get me too wrong here...my bike is a Giant Defy Advanced so BB86...I just don't think it is superior to BB30.
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As Badger1 was saying, Shimano has a long history of not playing well with others. BB30 isn't going to change that.
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if you think it's annoying that shimano doesn't want to build to someone else's new BB standard, then just take a look at threadless headset 'standards'.
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Doubt they ever will. The Shimano poster boy team (BMC) has even had the frame manufacturer switch to Shimano standards for 2012. That way they can stop using adapters.
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For that matter, BMC's 2012 range offers some BB30 and some Shimano bikes. The TM01 and TeamMachine -the top - come with BB30.
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i keep reading abbout problems with creaking bb30.
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