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    The key to mastering long distance riding is too train your brain to cope

    it doesnt matter what state your in if your brain is right in the zone you can ride any distance fat or thin or any handicap is not an issue if you believe what can be done. the human mind is your most powerful tool USE IT

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    Sure, I believe I can flap my arms and fly like a bird....

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    Earbuds shut my brain off. *flame on*

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    I'll remember this next time my legs cramp up and lock straight. I'll just start thinking happy thoughts and all will be well. Hell I'm going to start riding 150 miles every day now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlJohnson View Post
    it doesnt matter what state your in if your brain is right in the zone you can ride any distance fat or thin or any handicap is not an issue if you believe what can be done. the human mind is your most powerful tool USE IT
    You are an ignorant fool.
    There have been many days when I haven't felt like riding, but there has never been a day when I was sorry I rode.

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    not sure if this is applicable (OP could just be dumb...) so I'll give the link.. http://legacy-cdn.smosh.com/smosh-pi...0/troll-27.jpg

    This is definitely appropriate - IBTL
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    Brains and cycling don't mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chasm54 View Post
    You are an ignorant fool.
    Really?

    Randonneurs have a saying that they borrowed from Yogi Berra: "Long distance riding is 90% mental, and the other half is physical".

    Randonneurs start at 130 miles in a single ride, and go up to 750+ miles. I suspect they know a thing or two about the subject - and in large leasure, they agree with the OP.

    I have not (yet) done many rando-rides (called randonees, or brevets) but those I've done took far more mental effort than physical.

    So before you take your next unqualified snipe at another poster, go here to learn more:
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    I don't know about you guys... but my butt tends to start hurting long before my legs...
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    Past about 50 miles its not my body that starts to grumble its my brain. Yesterday I did 50 miles after work and at mile 45 I thought I was all in. I was not. Just push past the pain. It really is all about determination. Training is of course essential, but if you can't will yourself to do it, you won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlJohnson View Post
    it doesnt matter what state your in if your brain is right in the zone you can ride any distance fat or thin or any handicap is not an issue if you believe what can be done. the human mind is your most powerful tool USE IT
    The only thing that this will do is make you think you can when you can't
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdIsMe View Post
    I don't know about you guys... but my butt tends to start hurting long before my legs...
    Sure, and your brain can simply choose to keep going. To a certain extent pain is just a feeling that can be ignored, it's a mental game.

    I think we all get what the OP was trying to say, but of course that wont stop people from posting silly responses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlJohnson View Post
    it doesnt matter what state your in if your brain is right in the zone you can ride any distance fat or thin or any handicap is not an issue if you believe what can be done. the human mind is your most powerful tool USE IT
    Huh?

    Are you saying that a 600lb quadraplegic who has never exercised in their whole life can ride 100 miles?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGlenday View Post
    Really?

    Randonneurs have a saying that they borrowed from Yogi Berra: "Long distance riding is 90% mental, and the other half is physical".

    Randonneurs start at 130 miles in a single ride, and go up to 750+ miles. I suspect they know a thing or two about the subject - and in large leasure, they agree with the OP.

    I have not (yet) done many rando-rides (called randonees, or brevets) but those I've done took far more mental effort than physical.

    So before you take your next unqualified snipe at another poster, go here to learn more:
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    I imagine those randonneurs do quite a lot of physical training as well as being mentally strong enough to cope with it.

    I'm not in the same league as those guys, I know that part of a long ride (especially a solo ride) is the mental strength to keep turning the pedals come what may, but there's still a heavy dose of physical fitness to fall back on as well. When I first rode my bike, having not exercised at all in 5 years or so, my legs just didn't have what it took to do 13 miles let alone 130.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGlenday View Post
    Really?

    Randonneurs have a saying that they borrowed from Yogi Berra: "Long distance riding is 90% mental, and the other half is physical".

    Randonneurs start at 130 miles in a single ride, and go up to 750+ miles. I suspect they know a thing or two about the subject - and in large leasure, they agree with the OP.

    I have not (yet) done many rando-rides (called randonees, or brevets) but those I've done took far more mental effort than physical.

    So before you take your next unqualified snipe at another poster, go here to learn more:
    http://www.bikeforums.net/forumdispl...urance-Cycling

    I think the OP's "any distance" is an exaggeration, but certainly a century is a mental effort more than a physical. And the cramping and leg fail comments are just about adjusting what you do, mentally recovering, and keep moving. Ibuprofen and Icy Hot help.

    I was a hiker before my latest cycling rebirth, and two saying were, "It is always easier to go back to the car" and "A hiker is someone who puts one foot in front of the other regardless of how much it hurts." If you can't get your head around it, you won't do it. The few times that we did not achieve our hiking goals was from someone losing their will to go forward. It has happened to me, so I know it first hand.

    Edit: Forgot to say that I quoted you because I agree.

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    But if you get injured on the ride (tear a muscle, tendon pops, etc.) I would think that you would not be able to go on without doing more injury to self. Better to live to ride another day?

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    It's all about both your mental and physical conditioning...

    Even if you're in great physical condition, if your mind isn't into it, it's a wrap!

    When touring feels more like you're on an exercise bike, it's a wrap!...You simply don't want to do it anymore!

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    I dunno. My longest ride this year (a RUSA event), I reached a point where I was just too tired to go on. I actually walked the last two miles of the course, and finished on time, happily, but I had my doubts.

    The thing about the Central Governor theory is that it is ultimately a survival mechanism. It can be overcome by will power, but that's not always a good thing to do. I heard a lecture by the theory's main proponent (I'm blanking on his name) and he recalled several instances of marathoners having a great race by ignoring all pain inputs but never able to have a great race after that.

    Anyway, my mind can say anything I want to hear, but if I overdo it I'm gonna blow chow.

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    "The mind will break....well before the body does."

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    My brain was fine right from the get-go, but it took a while to get my body in shape where I could ride better.
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    underestimating physical capabilities is a sign of low brain training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by echotraveler View Post
    underestimating physical capabilities is a sing of low brain training.
    Is dyslexia one also?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlJohnson View Post
    it doesnt matter what state your in if your brain is right in the zone you can ride any distance fat or thin or any handicap is not an issue if you believe what can be done. the human mind is your most powerful tool USE IT
    I think he is confusing brain and bum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollCNY View Post
    I was a hiker before my latest cycling rebirth
    Same here - I was a mountain-hiker before I started cycling (a year ago).

    One of the challenge hikes we do every 2 years is 42 miles of the Appalachian Trail in 1 day. That one is almost all mental!
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