Seven Axiom S or SL versus Lynskey Helix or R230?
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Poor dude had to waste all his time writing that, to settle a bike forum debate. Probably under the impression he would get a sale or customer from an in-depth reply or hopefully he is a close friend doing you a favor.
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Likely copied and pasted, but nonetheless...I now know more about titanium than I do women, but that was true before I knew anything about titanium.
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And, no, the info is not copy and pasted.
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LOL.. I'd hardly call it a debate. Basically GMM's source confirmed my point. The fact that 3/2.5 and 6/4 "may" go through additional processes (annealing) or testing for a specific job is a moot point. I also feel sorry for the person he bothered as it's basically boils down a waste of his probably valuable time.
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You mean, take test rides on a Ti bike?
What about the claimed higher quality titanium welds and the helix shaped tubes of Lynskey.
I do know I want a fast and light bike, but also a comfortable bike for long distances.
But does Seven have the different titanium finishes that Lynskey offers?
What about the claimed higher quality titanium welds and the helix shaped tubes of Lynskey.
I do know I want a fast and light bike, but also a comfortable bike for long distances.
But does Seven have the different titanium finishes that Lynskey offers?
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Thanks to all for making this a lively discussion.
I've decided to go with a Seven Axiom SL... I figured this is my only chance to see what a custom geometry feels like. And I called up Seven, and they seem to really know what they're doing.
I'll keep you guys posted.
I've decided to go with a Seven Axiom SL... I figured this is my only chance to see what a custom geometry feels like. And I called up Seven, and they seem to really know what they're doing.
I'll keep you guys posted.
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Enjoy the fitting/sizing process. It's very comprehensive and fun. But take your time going over everything. Remember this is a custom bike built just for you!
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fuji-owner, I just got mine 2 weeks ago, went with axiom s, really nice process and the bike is beautiful. If you were closer, I would let you test ride it.
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Thanks to all for making this a lively discussion.
I've decided to go with a Seven Axiom SL... I figured this is my only chance to see what a custom geometry feels like. And I called up Seven, and they seem to really know what they're doing.
I'll keep you guys posted.
I've decided to go with a Seven Axiom SL... I figured this is my only chance to see what a custom geometry feels like. And I called up Seven, and they seem to really know what they're doing.
I'll keep you guys posted.
Enjoy your Seven.
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From their site....regardless, bikes are made upon order, not stocked. Mine was custom due to abnormal size upper torso.
"Suppose you weren't even considering a custom bike, but you'd like all the quality and benefits of a beautifully handcrafted Seven. Then consider our Signature Size™ frames. Choosing any Seven model in one of literally dozens of these expertly designed sizes is as fast and easy as ordering any stock frame. But you get so much more. You can order a Signature Size™ as is, or with just 10 simple steps, you can select an array or custom options, including rider-specific tubing, top tube length, cable routing, rack and fender mounts, and your choice of decal colors. See specifications for our Signature Sizes™ on pages 32 and 33. "
"Suppose you weren't even considering a custom bike, but you'd like all the quality and benefits of a beautifully handcrafted Seven. Then consider our Signature Size™ frames. Choosing any Seven model in one of literally dozens of these expertly designed sizes is as fast and easy as ordering any stock frame. But you get so much more. You can order a Signature Size™ as is, or with just 10 simple steps, you can select an array or custom options, including rider-specific tubing, top tube length, cable routing, rack and fender mounts, and your choice of decal colors. See specifications for our Signature Sizes™ on pages 32 and 33. "
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Interesting. Thanks.
I would think that would make buying one on the used market to be challenging, knowing that there is no "generic" sizes available. I don't know enough to know what I need, so that would make me nervous.
I would think that would make buying one on the used market to be challenging, knowing that there is no "generic" sizes available. I don't know enough to know what I need, so that would make me nervous.
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Seven has "signature sizes" which is similar to "generic" or stock sizes. You still order the bike custom but the sizing is standard.
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I have nothing to add to this discussion except some ti and stove porn.
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Fuji stays for rainy days, rough intown city streets, and for intown guests to ride
I've got 3 years and like 15,000miles on this bike, we've been through a lot together
https://picasaweb.google.com/1072811...eat=directlink
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No no, not giving it away. Just replacing my primary ride.
Fuji stays for rainy days, rough intown city streets, and for intown guests to ride
I've got 3 years and like 15,000miles on this bike, we've been through a lot together
https://picasaweb.google.com/1072811...eat=directlink
Fuji stays for rainy days, rough intown city streets, and for intown guests to ride
I've got 3 years and like 15,000miles on this bike, we've been through a lot together
https://picasaweb.google.com/1072811...eat=directlink
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Thanks to all for making this a lively discussion.
I've decided to go with a Seven Axiom SL... I figured this is my only chance to see what a custom geometry feels like. And I called up Seven, and they seem to really know what they're doing.
I'll keep you guys posted.
I've decided to go with a Seven Axiom SL... I figured this is my only chance to see what a custom geometry feels like. And I called up Seven, and they seem to really know what they're doing.
I'll keep you guys posted.
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I bought a Seven and would do it again in a heartbeat. I wanted an “all round” road frame with neutral handling, not the “criterium style” frames many are making these days, as I don’t like having to steer with by butt when adding or shedding layers. I rode a demo “Elium” to get an idea how their standard build/angles would ride. With the help of my dealer Steve Loveland at Steve’s on Cannon 509 747 5220 and the seven designer; I got the long top tube I need, the clearance for 28cm tires for Inland NW “Chip Sealed” and dirt roads, (we do have good pavement too), a stiff BB for “sprintability”, and the smooth yet durable ride that Titanium gives.
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