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Old 05-17-12, 03:53 PM
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Should I?

Thinking about dropping a pretty penny on this 2012 Venge, what advantages would I get coming from an SL3 to this, I relatively ride flats, not many hills where I live. Besides looking very freakin awesome, is there any. Please Venge owners , chime in and share me your thoughts...
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Wow... looks awesome. Except for that price tag.
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its a significant upgrade from the sl3...the sl4 alone would be a huge noticeable upgrade...DO IT!
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I have nothing that will help you, but I'm curious to see how many actual Venge owners there are on here. I wish you well, and I hope you buy it, for no other reason than I think it's a sick bike. Just remember that you are going to need some deep carbon wheels with large white decals to complete the looks of the bike
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If you have the coin and as long as you understand it isn't going to make you any faster, I say get it. That is freaking HOT!
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Your wallet will be much lighter. That should improve accelerations on the flats.
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You will love it, but i paid much less ...$4400.00?
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Sweet frame, and if you're ok paying MSRP then go for it. Personally I'd not pay more than $2500 for that frame though, and if I wait long enough I'm sure I'd find that deal brand new at a shop.

For comparison, I just bought an S-works Roubaix SL3 with full dura-ace (but I let the shop keep the wheels and cassette - I have my own I use) for $3200+tax. MSRP on the complete bike was $8000. That's brand new from an LBS. It was a 2011 bike....I watched the price slowly decrease over 6 months until I negotiated my deal.
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Owner of the LBS is going to give me a significant discount, I wouldnt consider it, if he didnt. I learned before, when I bought a used Giant TCR Advanced and found a hairline crack down the seat tube, luckily an LBS gave me a good faith crash warranty and gave me a new frame for half price, but still on top of what I already paid for the used bike. I have looked on eBay, but its hard to drop 2-3k without proper inspection. At least I will have peace of mind knowing I have life time warranty on this frame.
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At least I will have peace of mind knowing I have life time warranty on this frame.
In my experience that's invaluable.

And I LOVE that frame...can't beat black & white.
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Yeah baby!

And see? I'm not gonna even ask if you physically qualify.
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Originally Posted by Drag
Yeah baby!

And see? I'm not gonna even ask if you physically qualify.
LOL, do I have to be physically fit to ride the Venge?
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You'll lose some stiffness (theres that word again) and gain some aero.

Biggest gain is in hotness!! Do eeet!!

But make sure you can ride 50+ mph first...so you'll actually deserve the frame!
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Originally Posted by Drag
Yeah baby!

And see? I'm not gonna even ask if you physically qualify.


pretty sure specialized only cares if he financially qualifies.
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Keep the Tarmac and get the Venge!
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Originally Posted by I <3 Robots
You'll lose some stiffness (theres that word again) and gain some aero.

Biggest gain is in hotness!! Do eeet!!

But make sure you can ride 50+ mph first...so you'll actually deserve the frame!
not with the s-works...I was pretty sure its as stiff as the current sl4, right?

now the venge pro is a bit flimsy, they liken it to the sl3
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Originally Posted by Rob13
Owner of the LBS is going to give me a significant discount, I wouldnt consider it, if he didnt. I learned before, when I bought a used Giant TCR Advanced and found a hairline crack down the seat tube, luckily an LBS gave me a good faith crash warranty and gave me a new frame for half price, but still on top of what I already paid for the used bike. I have looked on eBay, but its hard to drop 2-3k without proper inspection. At least I will have peace of mind knowing I have life time warranty on this frame.
If you're saying you'll get it near half price, I think it's a great deal. I'd get it.

I bet (hope?) aero bikes will get more common over the next 5 years.
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I thought the S-Works Venge was uber stiff, teeth chattering stiff?

I think the OP will lose ride quality coming from a Tarmac.
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Originally Posted by DropDeadFred
not with the s-works...I was pretty sure its as stiff as the current sl4, right?

now the venge pro is a bit flimsy, they liken it to the sl3
The Spesh videos say the stiffness is equal to the SL2 Tarmac.
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Originally Posted by I <3 Robots
The Spesh videos say the stiffness is equal to the SL2 Tarmac.
on the pro or the s-works?
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Man, I love the looks of the Venge. I have been resisting temptation to buy one. Heck, I would settle for an S-Works Tarmac over my Roubaix! Maybe I'll give myself a goal of breaking 22.5mph in the monthly TT race by the end of the season. It can be my reward to my hard work.

I say if it fits in your budget and you want it, go for it. Just post plenty of pics!

So where are you guys finding the discounts on the bikes/frames? I can't even find a 2011 Tarmac/Roubaix S-Works frame for less than $2995.
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just looked up some reviews...they say its between the sl2 and the sl3...I know the sl4 is stupid stiff...so i guess it would be a matter of preference.

https://bicycling.com/blogs/thisjusti...ialized-venge/


I think I'd just go s-works tarmac....
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LOL...how stiff does one need a bike to be? How many people can actually ride a modern higher end bike to its limits?

Kinda like when it comes to aero bikes. If you can't...it don't matter how "stiff" a bike is.
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LOL...how stiff does one need a bike to be? How many people can actually ride a modern higher end bike to its limits?

Kinda like when it comes to aero bikes. If you can't...it don't matter how "stiff" a bike is.
Im no powerhouse by any measure, but I can tell when a bike flexes, especially on sprints and climbs...the difference between my old orbea and my friends current sl4 was ridiculous.
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THat frame is disgusting. I can't believe you would even consider buying it... But if your dead set on spending your money I suppose buy it and I'll pm you my mailing address. I hate to do it but it's the least I can do...
 

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