Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

View Poll Results: What, if anything, should I upgrade before the build?

Voters
54. You may not vote on this poll
  • EC-70 to ENVE 2.0 for $200

    11 20.37%
  • FSA Crank to 105 Crank $150

    8 14.81%
  • Gossamer to 105 Brakes - $75

    5 9.26%
  • BOTH Crank and Brakes to 105 $225

    7 12.96%
  • Leave it. The shortcuts won't hurt you one bit.

    23 42.59%
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 43
  1. #1
    Just Plain Slow PhotoJoe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Santa Clarita, CA
    My Bikes
    Lynskey R230
    Posts
    4,064
    Mentioned
    35 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Bike on order - what upgrade

    OK, so I'm getting close to my Lynskey being delivered. I think I can swing upgrading one of the "lower end" items spec'd to save me some money. Right now, the bike is spec'd to have the FSA Omega compact crank, Gossamer brakes, and an Easton EC-70 fork. The EC-70 weighs 530 grams. They have an option of an ENVE 2.0 for $200 more, which weighs 350 grams.

    If you were to upgrade one item, what would it be and why? What real-world benefits would I see? I'd rather upgrade what I can (within reason) now rather than buy one item, then upgrade it later. I think this will be cheaper long-run.

    BTW, salmon pads are one of the first things I'll change when I get the bike. Wheels are spec'd at FSA RD-60's which is fine. Once I hit a weight reduction target, I'll look for some Boyd/Williams or...???? The RD-60's will be fine for now.
    Last edited by PhotoJoe; 05-21-12 at 01:02 PM.
    If at first you don't succeed, Skydiving is not the sport for you!

  2. #2
    RT
    RT is offline
    The Weird Beard RT's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    COS
    Posts
    8,528
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I would upgrade the crank, if you had to upgrade anything. I use an FSA compact crank and like it a lot, but you will have your FSA naysayers.

    Just get it, ride it for a bit, and don't blow all of your upgrade money before you have the bike.

  3. #3
    Senior Member Homebrew01's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    Ffld Cnty Connecticut
    My Bikes
    Old Steelies I made, Old Cannondales
    Posts
    15,589
    Mentioned
    6 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Why is everyone so eager to upgrade bits of their new bikes that they haven't even ridden yet ?
    Upgrade something you will actually notice such as clothes, shoes, saddle, helmet ....
    Bikes: Old steel race bikes, old Cannondale race bikes, less old Cannondale race bike, crappy old mtn bike

  4. #4
    Senior Member Seattle Forrest's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Seattle, WA
    Posts
    9,878
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    I'd leave it as is, and that's how I voted. If you ride it a while, and part of the bike annoys you, upgrade that part. Otherwise, spend the money on gas and a hotel room ... say just outside Yosemite, or some other place you would enjoy riding.
    Don't believe everything you think.

  5. #5
    Just Plain Slow PhotoJoe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Santa Clarita, CA
    My Bikes
    Lynskey R230
    Posts
    4,064
    Mentioned
    35 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Homebrew01 View Post
    Why is everyone so eager to upgrade bits of their new bikes that they haven't even ridden yet ?
    Upgrade something you will actually notice such as clothes, shoes, saddle, helmet ....
    I'm eager to learn if it's a good move or not....thus the "leave it alone" option on the poll. I'm pretty new to this world, and asking questions is how I learn. If the "experts" tell me that from their experience I'll be just fine with everything as spec'd...GREAT. I can save some money. However, I'd be really frustrated if I could have upgraded something and didn't, and everyone except me knew that one of the components was complete crap and I'd have to spend even more later to fix it. That's it.

    I have a new helmet, enough shorts/bibs for now, pedals and shoes, etc. I'll need a few bottle cages and would like to buy a Garmin, but that depends on my decision here. Otherwise, that can be done later.
    If at first you don't succeed, Skydiving is not the sport for you!

  6. #6
    Just Plain Slow PhotoJoe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Santa Clarita, CA
    My Bikes
    Lynskey R230
    Posts
    4,064
    Mentioned
    35 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
    ......spend the money on gas and a hotel room ... say just outside Yosemite, or some other place you would enjoy riding.
    I like the way you think. That would be awesome!
    If at first you don't succeed, Skydiving is not the sport for you!

  7. #7
    Throw the stick!!!! LowCel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    Charleston, WV
    My Bikes
    GMC Denali
    Posts
    17,586
    Mentioned
    12 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    I would go for the fork. The other items you can upgrade for a decent price later on. The fork is a pretty good expense so I would go ahead and do that one now. It is also a pretty substantial weight savings.
    I may be fat but I'm slow enough to make up for it.

  8. #8
    Senior Member ravenmore's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Austin, TX
    Posts
    8,059
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by LowCel View Post
    I would go for the fork. The other items you can upgrade for a decent price later on. The fork is a pretty good expense so I would go ahead and do that one now. It is also a pretty substantial weight savings.
    +1 - I've always wanted an ENVE fork but couldn't justify the cost. Very light and very blingy.
    Ravenmore's Pictures
    Ravenmore's Photo Blog

    Mean people are like slinkys. They're really not worth much but still are rather entertaining to watch tumble down the stairs.

  9. #9
    Senior Member Seattle Forrest's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Seattle, WA
    Posts
    9,878
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by LowCel View Post
    I would go for the fork. The other items you can upgrade for a decent price later on. The fork is a pretty good expense so I would go ahead and do that one now. It is also a pretty substantial weight savings.
    It's a pretty big weight savings, because the OP comes with an unusually heavy fork. The Enve one ... well, it's Enve, if that means anything to you, but it's also in the same ballpark as a lot of nice forks. Here's an even lighter fork for $210, which isn't much more than the upgrade. Is there anything about the Enve that's actually better?
    Don't believe everything you think.

  10. #10
    Senior Member RollCNY's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Central NY
    My Bikes
    Felt Rejected
    Posts
    6,592
    Mentioned
    96 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Assuming you have 5700 levers, get 5700 brakes. The new levers have a different cable pull than historic calipers, and will have a "squishy" feeling, no matter what pads you install. Leave everything else alone.

  11. #11
    Senior Member himespau's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Louisville, KY
    Posts
    7,541
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    saddle
    Punctuation is important. It's the difference between "I helped my uncle, Jack, off a horse" and "I helped my uncle Jack off a horse"


  12. #12
    Senior Member Nachoman's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Point Loma, CA
    My Bikes
    Bill Holland (Road-Ti), Bike Friday (folder), Co-Motion (tandem) & Trek 750 (hybrid)
    Posts
    12,830
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I voted upgrade brakes and crank to 105. It seems like a reasonable upgrade, that you could easily do later, but then it would cost you more money and you'd be stuck selling used equipment.
    .
    .

    Two wheels good. Four wheels bad.

  13. #13
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    659
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Put a couple hundred more bucks on the credit card and upgrade all those things. Buy once, cry once. I mean, you're going to have this bike forever, right? I say this as a notorious cheapskate about most things.

  14. #14
    Just Plain Slow PhotoJoe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Santa Clarita, CA
    My Bikes
    Lynskey R230
    Posts
    4,064
    Mentioned
    35 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by himespau View Post
    saddle
    Didn't think of that. I guess that is one item that if it needs upgrading, I would definitely feel the difference. It's spec'd with Selle Italia XO Flow - Black.
    If at first you don't succeed, Skydiving is not the sport for you!

  15. #15
    Just Plain Slow PhotoJoe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Santa Clarita, CA
    My Bikes
    Lynskey R230
    Posts
    4,064
    Mentioned
    35 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Pendergast View Post
    Put a couple hundred more bucks on the credit card and upgrade all those things. Buy once, cry once. I mean, you're going to have this bike forever, right? I say this as a notorious cheapskate about most things.
    Ain't gonna happen. My wife and I got in the credit card trap early on. NEVER AGAIN. If we don't have the money, we don't spend it. Simple enough. I'd ride a big-wheel before putting a luxury item on the credit card.
    If at first you don't succeed, Skydiving is not the sport for you!

  16. #16
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    659
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by PhotoJoe View Post
    Ain't gonna happen. My wife and I got in the credit card trap early on. NEVER AGAIN. If we don't have the money, we don't spend it. Simple enough. I'd ride a big-wheel before putting a luxury item on the credit card.
    I've never gotten myself into a credit card bind(probably because I'm so careful with money otherwise), but I do know people who have and wouldn't wish that on anyone.

    Brakes seem like the most reasonable upgrade if you need them to match the pull of the levers that are spec-ed, so that's what I'm voting for in the poll.

  17. #17
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    791
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    FSA lower model gossamer cranks are not good. The FSA CARBON are great have one on my Moto Imm Spirit. The gossamer on my other bike I swapped for a 105 and night and day difference in shifting. The gossamer would miss a shift or just not go smooth. The 105 has never missed best thing I did. Funny because the FSA carbon light shifts perfect but huge difference in price. Do not take the FSA

  18. #18
    Iconoclast rat fink's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    California
    My Bikes
    Colnago Super, Fuji Opus III, Specialized Rockhopper
    Posts
    3,155
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by PhotoJoe View Post
    Didn't think of that. I guess that is one item that if it needs upgrading, I would definitely feel the difference. It's spec'd with Selle Italia XO Flow - Black.
    Whoa. Dump that junk for sure. As a rule, no saddle that retails for under $70 is usually any good at all.
    "Winning is the best deodorant. Someone can look at your bike and say it stinks, but if you win with it, suddenly it's okay." - Jim Busby

  19. #19
    Middle-Aged Member MikeyBoyAz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Mesa, AZ
    My Bikes
    Bianchi Infinito CV 2014, TREK HIFI 2011
    Posts
    1,740
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I personally hated my gossamer crank. I upgraded to ultegra and I have loved every goss free minute. it flexed quite a bit and the large chain ring was soft enough metal that the chain would chew tiny bits when I dropped to the small ring (yes I did so under load...) the ultegra crank has been nothing but heaven... get the 105 crank and the fork if you want... as long as the brakes don't fall off they can wait, pads are more important anyway.
    I HEARD YOU'RE IDEA'S AND THEIR DEFINATELY GOOD.
    xkcd.com / 1238

  20. #20
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Near Sacramento
    Posts
    4,872
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    The fork. IMO, the Easton forks are soft.
    -------

    Some sort of pithy irrelevant one-liner should go here.

  21. #21
    Gluteus Enormus mmmdonuts's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Raleigh, NC
    My Bikes
    Yes
    Posts
    2,229
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I voted: Leave it.

    Ride it and find out what you don't like. Otherwise you should have spec'd it the way you wanted it.
    Everybody's got plans... until they get hit.
    - Mike Tyson

  22. #22
    Behind EVERYone!!! baj32161's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Burlington ON, Canada
    My Bikes
    '11 Cannondale Synapsese 5 105
    Posts
    5,902
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Homebrew01 View Post
    Why is everyone so eager to upgrade bits of their new bikes that they haven't even ridden yet ?
    Upgrade something you will actually notice such as clothes, shoes, saddle, helmet ....
    I have always wondered this myself.
    A good teacher protects his pupils from his own influence.

    ― Bruce Lee

  23. #23
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    659
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by baj32161 View Post
    I have always wondered this myself.
    I think in this case, it's because the bike hasn't been built up yet.

  24. #24
    Just Plain Slow PhotoJoe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Santa Clarita, CA
    My Bikes
    Lynskey R230
    Posts
    4,064
    Mentioned
    35 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Pendergast View Post
    I think in this case, it's because the bike hasn't been built up yet.
    This. And with all my med bills, I wasn't sure I was even going to be able to afford the "cheaped out" version. I'm funding all of this through ebay sales - 100%. They're going pretty well and it would be cheaper to do whatever I can now than buy cheap and upgrade. And, there is no difference in having the bike spec'd with some corners cut, then changing my mind before it's built and getting a few better pieces if it makes sense than if I just ordered up the full 105 build from the beginning. I'm just realizing I may not have to be AS cheap as I thought I would. Notice, I'm not talking Ultegra/DA. I'm still on the low side of the spectrum. I just want to get the best bike I can for the money. And I appreciate all the insights. Good food for thought.
    If at first you don't succeed, Skydiving is not the sport for you!

  25. #25
    Senior Member Seattle Forrest's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Seattle, WA
    Posts
    9,878
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by PhotoJoe View Post
    I like the way you think. That would be awesome!
    I've always wanted to ride from Mono Lake up to Tioga Pass, and down to Toulmne Meadows. Here's a picture of the road, to tempt you.

    A lot of people are very eager to upgrade the bike they've just bought/ordered. There have been too many threads about "What should I buy next?" to count. I think a lot of the questions people are asking about that in your thread aren't really directed at you.
    Don't believe everything you think.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •