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Old 05-24-12, 06:26 PM   #1
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First road bike - Trek 1.5 vs Giant Defy 2

So I'm looking to pick up my first road bike in an attempt to get in better shape this summer and as of right now I'm torn between the Trek 1.5 and Giant Defy 2.

Specs for the Trek: http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes...1_series/1_5/#
Specs for the Giant: http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-us/....2/9014/48854/

The Trek is $40 more than the Giant so that's not really a big deal. I was able to take the Giant for a test ride and it felt extremely comfortable but they didn't have the Trek in stock for me to ride. Based on components alone, would you choose one over the other or is it pretty much a wash? I'm looking to stay close to $1000 price wise and the bike likely will not see any rides over 30 miles this year. Also, if you wouldn't recommend either of these two, what other models would you suggest? A local bike shop also carries Specialized but I hadn't looked them up before hitting the bike stores. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 05-24-12, 07:06 PM   #2
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I'm not particular to trek anymore so I'll through in my .02. The parts are pretty much going to be the same, tiagra throughout. So it's just gonna come down to what fits you better and rides better. Me, i think the Giant looks cooler than the trek, but like I said, I'm not keen on trek anymore.

And while you're saying it now that you probably won't do rides over 30 miles, that may be true but probably not. You'll probably do more eventually so consider that in the comfort/ride quality.
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Old 05-24-12, 07:24 PM   #3
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I purchased a 2010 Defy as my first "modern" road bike (I'd owned some older steel bikes as a teen, but stopped riding for a number of years and recently got back into the swing of things), and I have been pretty happy with it. It is a comfortable riding frame, and I have taken it on numerous 10mile commutes to work as well as a few 50 mile "pleasure rides". It does seems to be a little on the hefty side, but not so much that it feels like a boat anchor.

Having said this much, both bikes have comparable components (shimano tiagra, same gearing, different FSA cranks) so you'll likely feel little difference in the actual drivetrain. However, looking at the geometry tables, the Trek appears to be a hair more aggressive (shorter headtube, slightly more "aero"). I say look around for another Trek dealer and give the bike a go, or try out a different model with the same geometry and a different drivetrain. Unless you're super anal, or change brands you'll likely notice little difference in drivetrain components between 2300, Sora, and Tiagra from the saddle. SRAM controls are different, and the shifting feels a bit different too, but I can't really tell a difference in the lower end Shimano stuff from numerous test rides. Try something with a better or worse groupset, but same frame and check the reach, comfort, and handling of the bike. That should give you a pretty good idea on what you prefer.

Get whichever fits and enjoy the ride.
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+1 K&K. Its gonna come down to whatever you like best in looks and or how it feels. Test ride them both and decide on how they feel. If that doesn't sell you, decide on what you think looks better.

My vote goes to the giant.
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Those two bikes are very very similar. It boils down to fit and what you like. I see the Trek has fender mounts, if that matters to you. Personally, I like the more traditional bike look of the Trek. I'm a luddite and sloping top tubes have less appeal. Even though you like the Giant, I would hold out for a test ride on the Trek. It's a lot of money and you should explore all your options. The Trek is an H2 fit and I expect it to be a bit more aggressive than the Giant. You may or may not find it to your liking. Those are both great bikes and modern Tiagra components will offer smooth, crisp shifting.
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I also say test ride both and see what you think. I believe the Defy is the better bike...Giant does a good bike with some bikes for the price point being very good...defy at that price point being one.
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I also say test ride both and see what you think. I believe the Defy is the better bike...Giant does a good bike with some bikes for the price point being very good...defy at that price point being one.
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I chose the defy as the frameset to build my 1st road bike.
Giant is known for their "better bang for your buck" appeal.
Test as many as you can in your budget before you pull the trigger.
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I was checking out Craigslist and I came across a 2011 Defy Advanced 4 with the composite frame for $900. If the frame is the right size, I'm tempted to go that route since it's more bike for less money.
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I was checking out Craigslist and I came across a 2011 Defy Advanced 4 with the composite frame for $900. If the frame is the right size, I'm tempted to go that route since it's more bike for less money.
Not knowing the detailed history of this bike, you are taking some risk in this business transaction.

However, if everything is on the up and up, you'll be getting a great deal!

God! I hate to gamble!

Personally, I would never buy a used carbon bike from a complete stranger!

Buy new and get a warranty!...It's just a smarter way to go all 'round!

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2011

Why is this bike being sold so soon?...I mean, anybody can make up an explanation, but what's the real story behind such a quick sale?

Remember: Carbon conceals damage quite well...

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Not knowing the detailed history of this bike, you are taking some risk in this business transaction.

However, if everything is on the up and up, you'll be getting a great deal!

God! I hate to gamble!

I would never buy a used carbon bike from a complete stranger!

Buy new and get a warranty!...It's just a smarter way to go all 'round!

PS.

A 2011...

Why is this bike being sold so soon?...I mean, anybody can make up a story or explanation, but what's the real story behind such a quick sale?

Remember: Carbon conceals damage quite well...
The bike's owner says he only put about 50 miles on it before he blew out his knee last year and it hurts too much to ride it. However, I've never bought a used bike before and my LBS provides 3 years of tune-ups and basic adjustments for free with the purchase of a new bike. I'm almost tempted to pay more for the new bike since I wouldn't know what to look for when it comes to damaged carbon fiber.
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Old 05-25-12, 07:54 AM   #11
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Very similar bikes. You really should test drive both and go with the one you like the most.
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you won't go wrong with either, if you have ridden the defy and like it go for it, its a fine machine.
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I have an 09 Defy 2 and I have to say that it is a really nice bike for the price. I put over 3,000 miles on it in one year with much of the miles on 50+ mile rides. I didn't ride a Trek to compare with the Defy when I purchased it, so I can't comment on the Trek. But I would give you the same advice that others have given you; ride them both and decide which is best for you. You may even want to try more than those two brands as you may find something that is better for you.
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Go check out a Specialized as well. While you are at it, also check out a Scott, Jamis, Felt, Cannondale, Bianchi etc.

http://www.cannondale.com/2012/bikes...6-tiagra-19866
http://www.scott-sports.com/us/en/pr...-s30-cd20-m54/
http://www.feltbicycles.com/USA/2012...eries/F85.aspx
http://www.bianchiusa.com/bikes/road...rone-7-tiagra/
http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bik...ezelitecompact
http://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/thebik...nturacomp.html
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