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Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

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Old 01-07-05, 06:16 PM   #1
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Why are some bikes $5000 to $10000 + ?

Like even the ones still with the small little seat? Do these bike hurt to ride after a while? It just seems strange in my opinion to spend that much money on a bike with a seat that small that you could hurt after a while. I could be wrong maybe the seat is made out of something really special ?

I am not saying I hate these bikes because I don't. They look very cool as well and was just wondering why they are so expensive but yet have such a small seat?

Why can't they put better seats on these kinds of bikes? Curious.
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could you be more specific about the bikes you are thinking about?
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Old 01-07-05, 06:29 PM   #3
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Expensive Road Bike Pictures.
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The smaller the seat, the more expensive....
Many things in this world that are small are expensive....
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Old 01-07-05, 06:45 PM   #5
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The smaller the seat, the more expensive....
Many things in this world that are small are expensive....
Yes but what does a smaller seat allow ? How does it give any confort at all for a very long distance or are these type of bikes not for a long distance?
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Yes but what does a smaller seat allow ? How does it give any confort at all for a very long distance or are these type of bikes not for a long distance?
I'd hate to admit it but you're right. These $5000 bikes should come with a comfortable, quality, all day saddle like the sprung B67 Brooks or similar. The tires on these bikes are way too skinny as well.
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And for five grand, I want a bike that is sturdy. These bikes are so light that it seems if you touch them, they might break.
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And for five grand, I want a bike that is sturdy. These bikes are so light that it seems if you touch them, they might break.
Are you serious or just pulling my leg?
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Jeffrey,

Slow down a little, and take a moment to smell the sarcasm.

The idea behind those "tiny seats" is to save weight, while attempting to maintain comfort at the same time. If you were to use one of those saddles, you generally need to try a few differant ones before you find one that fits you, as those saddles are all a little differant and not as forgiving as the big padded (heavy) kind.
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The smaller the seat, the more expensive....
Many things in this world that are small are expensive....
That dogma ego ($16,500) must have a pointy shaft for a seat.

So you know upfront that for the price you paid, you're gonna get screwed.
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plus many of these super expensive bikes are not for longer hauls, when you have ones that are more geared toward shorter races you wont notice the pain so much
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Whats the best bike to buy that will allow you to do the longest haul?
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Wellthe bikes will do fine for longer hauls just a bike geared for longer hauls has to keep comfort more in mind so it might be a tad heavier, which in my opinion most wont notice. Also the fit is different, i think theres some website that you can enter your physical information and it will give you sizes for different types of riding. Of course it doesnt beat having yourself fit in person but it is probably a good guideline
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The LIVE STRONG bike is 10,000 because A. it looks cool, B. lance Rode it in his 6TH tour de frnace, and also there are bikes that are custom, or have really expensive componets, or

Somebodys getting ripped off.
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...The tires on these bikes are way too skinny as well...

umm Just FYI you are in the road cyling part of the forum.
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umm Just FYI you are in the road cyling part of the forum.
But these seem too skinny..... maybe 16mm in widths. I'd be afraid to ride over RR crossings with these...
Don't they make fatter road tires?

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I wonder if they are any REALLY REALLY INCREDIBLY thin tires for track and indoors racing that are like, in the single digits.
700x8...
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Why can't they put better seats on these kinds of bikes? Curious.
Because they are meant to be ridden by "real cyclists" who always wear padded cycling shorts
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Well super skinny tires i dont even think are for anything besides races on a closed course, where the track is super smooth with no thing on it.
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Ummmmm....because people will pay that much?

I keep telling people, except at the elite level, after you are at the level of Shimano 105 and aluminum framesets, it's the motor (rider). You cannot BUY speed, with one significant exception that true roadies frown upon like a homeless person at the Oscars: aerobars. Low spoke count wheels help too, but nowhere near as much.

That's the wonderful thing about cycling. It is a to a greater extent, a test of the depth of character of the participant, because there is no substitute for fitness.
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Ummmmm....because people will pay that much?

I keep telling people, except at the elite level, after you are at the level of Shimano 105 and aluminum framesets, it's the motor (rider). You cannot BUY speed, with one significant exception that true roadies frown upon like a homeless person at the Oscars: aerobars. Low spoke count wheels help too, but nowhere near as much.

That's the wonderful thing about cycling. It is a to a greater extent, a test of the depth of character of the participant, because there is no substitute for fitness.
Yep. Does it depend on the pedals and shoes as well ?

What about shorts, socks, and gloves?
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thats all true, but i think its fun saving for high end parts and marveling when they arrive.
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SDS- i totally agree with the 105/Alu frame comment. beyond that it's want not need.
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the fitness is fun but so is the wow factor of having cool stuff nobody else has. It should motivate you too (i wish i could have some new motivation like that ). biking is sort of like the auto industry...really nobody NEEDS a car with 300+ horsepower that can go 250km/h+ (except people in Germany and such who actually have a place to drive it) but its fun to have even if youre just crusin along at 130km/h.
and to the why cant they put bigger seats on it question....well imagine how silly a sleek bike would look with a big saddle on it
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Many things in this world that are small are expensive....
That explains why I'm a cheap mofo.

Bikes like the Dogma Ego, psychadelic De Rosa, De Rosa Cinquanta, candy pattern Colnogo, etc. are collectors items whose destination is a display of some sort, not the pavement. Unless you have a Federal Reserve bank in your garage, in which case I suppose you could buy one of these to ride. If I ever see someone rolling down the road aboard an Ego or Cinquanta, I'm gonna laugh them off the road...then go home and question my existence for not having one.
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