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    Hit a road reflector and then hit the deck

    Im a bit pissed off but Im ok except sore crotch and road rash.
    My Bell Volt hit the deck too and wondering what opinions you had about having to get a new lid

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    If your helmet hit the ground it needs replacing.

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    I am big fan of Giro as I have crashed and my Atmos saved me - it cracked in 3 spots. Fan of Giro for life.
    If the Bell worked for you then stick with it.
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    I've hit a few road reflectors and had some scary moments. glad you're ok. Get a new helmet ASAP! Get back on the bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by staplemachine View Post
    Im a bit pissed off but Im ok except sore crotch and road rash.
    My Bell Volt hit the deck too and wondering what opinions you had about having to get a new lid
    Kask K10 :-)

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    I should have been more specific I meant do you replace your helmets after a crash?

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    Quote Originally Posted by staplemachine View Post
    I should have been more specific I meant do you replace your helmets after a crash?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaker View Post
    If your helmet hit the ground it needs replacing.
    Quote Originally Posted by DropDeadFred View Post
    I've hit a few road reflectors and had some scary moments. glad you're ok. Get a new helmet ASAP! Get back on the bike.
    Yes.

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    New helmet, this one died a hero's death. Ive had some close calls on box dots also. A popular ride in SD has them all over the gore point at 101 and jimmy durante on a down hill grade. Almost impossible to miss the if their is any traffic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JC 911 View Post
    I am big fan of Giro as I have crashed and my Atmos saved me - it cracked in 3 spots. Fan of Giro for life.
    If the Bell worked for you then stick with it.
    No criticism of either brand. Just want to make sure you know they are made by the same company, Easton Sports. No sense not just looking for the best deal in either brand. Quite likely that some store brands and less popular brands are also made by them.

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    yes, replace it.

    I like my giro, fits good, decent ventilation for a cheaper helmet......

    I saw a few giro's on sale at Nashbar.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by JC 911 View Post
    Fan of Giro for life. If the Bell worked for you then stick with it.
    Bell and Giro are the same company. Some people have Giro-shaped heads and some have Bell-shaped heads. Get whatever fits best, bet, yes, replace your helmet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike F View Post
    New helmet, this one died a hero's death. Ive had some close calls on box dots also. A popular ride in SD has them all over the gore point at 101 and jimmy durante on a down hill grade. Almost impossible to miss the if their is any traffic.
    On a side note, it's worth learning how to ride safely over Bots dots. it's a skill taught during the Early Bird crit series here in NorCal - they often drill new racers by getting them to ride an entire lap or two entirely over the Bots dots. Unless it's wet they should be readily rideable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by staplemachine View Post
    I should have been more specific I meant do you replace your helmets after a crash?
    Yup.

    I had a scary moment yesterday involving road reflectors. Was going around a corner at ~40mph while descending and went too wide. Hit a road reflector in the median. Thankfully I was able to keep the bike in control.
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    I know but this is BF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaker View Post
    On a side note, it's worth learning how to ride safely over Bots dots. it's a skill taught during the Early Bird crit series here in NorCal - they often drill new racers by getting them to ride an entire lap or two entirely over the Bots dots. Unless it's wet they should be readily rideable.
    Cool! any links or suggestions?
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    Nothing special beyond, ride in the drops with a secure but not too tight grip on your bars, and keep your arms loose, to help absorb shock, and avoid making you too twitchy. Mostly they just encourage you to get used to riding over them and that it shoudln't be a big deal. If you think about riding a crit with a bunch of new racers, the last thing you want is people swerving to avoid the dots unecessarily.

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    Would love to see a link/tutorial on riding over reflectors also. There are several types of reflectors in my area. Some are huge. I wish they didn't separate bike lanes from traffic lanes with them.

    Some of the cheaper helmets seem to have plastic innards for adjusting fit that break easily just under normal wear and tear. Would love to learn why the big price difference between $250 helmets and $35 helmets. I understand the design differences and the extra research for high-end helmets; but the materials and manufacturing seem like they would still be very similar.

    YES, buy a new helmet.

    I skidded out taking a turn too fast and slid on my face on pavement a bit. Nice road rash on cheekbone next to eye. Hairline crack in the helmet and the shiny exterior plastic was barely scuffed. I didn't even notice that the helmet hit the ground since my attention was focused on my swollen face. That helmet probably saved me from a serious head injury. RIP little Giro, you did good.

    I keep an extra helmet(s) at the house. Got a cheap deal on an end-of-summer sale on a color that matches my bike. I also have one helmet set up for night use with helmet-mount lights and battery permanently affixed. They don't live forever, just like running shoes the foam degrades and hardens over time. Don't leave them sitting in a hot garage or out in the sun more than necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drag View Post
    Bell and Giro are the same company. Some people have Giro-shaped heads and some have Bell-shaped heads. Get whatever fits best, bet, yes, replace your helmet.

    My wife says I have an eggplant shaped head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by staplemachine View Post
    Im a bit pissed off but Im ok except sore crotch and road rash.
    My Bell Volt hit the deck too and wondering what opinions you had about having to get a new lid
    Send it back to the bell with a check for $35, they'll send you a new one. I've done it twice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaker View Post
    On a side note, it's worth learning how to ride safely over Bots dots. it's a skill taught during the Early Bird crit series here in NorCal - they often drill new racers by getting them to ride an entire lap or two entirely over the Bots dots. Unless it's wet they should be readily rideable.
    what is a bots dot?
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    Misspelling of Botts' Dot, I'm guessing.

    Dome shaped plastic bits glued between lanes, usually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
    Misspelling of Botts' Dot, I'm guessing.

    Dome shaped plastic bits glued between lanes, usually.
    just did a Google search, I dont play with the round/dome shaped ones. those are like riding over a tennis ball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
    Misspelling of Botts' Dot, I'm guessing.

    Yep, guilty as charged. From Caltrans:

    Those are known as raised pavement markers, or "Botts’ Dots." In 1953, Dr. Elbert D. Botts, working in the Caltrans materials testing lab in Sacramento, came upon the idea of using a raised pavement marker to help make the painted lines separating lanes last longer. After a many refinements, the use of Botts' Dots were mandated for all California freeways, except in areas where they would be damaged in snow-removal operations. The ubiquitous little buttons have since been adopted around the world. In addition to making lanes easier to distinguish, the markers also had an additional -- and originally unintended -- safety benefit: to alert motorists when they drift out of their lane. There are an estimated 20 million Botts” Dots in place today on California freeways and highways -- a lasting legacy to Mr. Botts, who passed away in 1962.

    Thanks Dr Botts. We have the dang reflectorized rectangle ones that stick up what seems to be 1/2 inch when riding. Probably really 1/4 of an inch. Great when riding a car. on the bike.. not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlaam4ever View Post
    just did a Google search, I dont play with the round/dome shaped ones. those are like riding over a tennis ball.
    Except when wet, then it's more like riding over a greased bocce ball!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike F View Post
    Thanks Dr Botts. We have the dang reflectorized rectangle ones that stick up what seems to be 1/2 inch when riding. Probably really 1/4 of an inch. Great when riding a car. on the bike.. not so much.
    3/4" for these puppies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
    Misspelling of Botts' Dot, I'm guessing.

    Dome shaped plastic bits glued between lanes, usually.
    Yup, exactly.

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