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    American Flyers is on NBC Sports right now

    Man this movie sucks.

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    I own it. Better than a lot of movies, and at least it's about cycling.

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    I actually have a copy, too. It's on a 2 movie disc with Breaking Away, but I've never managed to watch it.

    But I have watched Rae Dawn's wheel change on you tube about 1000 times.

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    The wheel change might have been the best part of the movie. I'm actually glad I wasted two hours last night watching it, so now I can silently nod my head in honest agreement whenever someone posts about how bad it was.

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    It was a different time, man. Rae Dawn must be in her 50s now. Lots of things have changed.
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    Are you kidding? It's great. It shows realistically how as an amateur racer you can just sign up for the same race as the 7-11 guys and some olympic champions, and if you have the natural talent and a good heart, you can win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpenmanparker View Post
    It was a different time, man. Rae Dawn must be in her 50s now. Lots of things have changed.
    No, you're wrong. I just watched on youtube. She's still 20 something and wearing that skimpy outfit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canam73 View Post
    Man this movie sucks.
    is it as bad as the Star Wars Holiday Special?

    Youtube that if you dare.

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    Thought it would be better. I'll never get that time back.
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    American Flyers is one of those movies that's so bad its good. Lot of fun one liners to throw around in group rides. (Up Dave, up.... )

    Best cycling movie? Hmmm - maybe Breaking Away?
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    I see Breaking Away being just as cheesy as American Flyers. I enjoy both, though. I just watch them with the understanding of what they are. In reality, you can take many movies from that time frame and get a similar quality. It's pretty consistent with the level of movies then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canam73 View Post
    Man this movie sucks.
    No one forces you to watch it, if it "sucks" so bad, why do it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by canam73 View Post
    I actually have a copy, too. It's on a 2 movie .
    LOL, it "sucks" yet you own a copy of it......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savagewolf View Post
    I see Breaking Away being just as cheesy as American Flyers. I enjoy both, though. I just watch them with the understanding of what they are. In reality, you can take many movies from that time frame and get a similar quality. It's pretty consistent with the level of movies then.
    Check out "Body Heat". Same 80's fashion and milieu, but amazing plot and great acting.

    Btw, I liked American Flyers for the cycling, but mainly for the cheesy awesomeness. I found myself laughing at, what I'm sure were, all the wrong places.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LemondFanForeve View Post
    LOL, it "sucks" yet you own a copy of it......
    Yeah, I also own a bike. I wouldn't expect you to understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LemondFanForeve View Post
    No one forces you to watch it, if it "sucks" so bad, why do it?
    Wasn't a planned event. I recorded the bike race on NBC Sports and when I was done and stopped the recording there it was. So I watched a few minutes of it. It sucked. As I happened to also have my laptop on, I shared my opinion. Then I waited for the wheel change as I've never seen it on the big screen and then I turned off.

    LOL, +1, 'post of the year'.

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    As teenagers, we tried to be cool by using phrases from the movie. I guess we were cool in our own minds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savagewolf View Post
    I see Breaking Away being just as cheesy as American Flyers. I enjoy both, though. I just watch them with the understanding of what they are. In reality, you can take many movies from that time frame and get a similar quality. It's pretty consistent with the level of movies then.
    Then you don't get what Breaking Away is about. It might be one of the greatest films ever and the writing was outstanding. Every time I watch it I find something else I missed before.
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    i had heard about american flyers for years, but never saw it until nbc started running it this past week. i watched the opening scene and bust out laughing. why is this guy wearing a cowboy hat and riding a bike and what was the deal with that awkward interaction between the cyclist and the guy that got splashed with water? bizarre. i made it a little further before having to change the channel.


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    I have always wondered whether Costner was a cyclist (on the side/hobby) or whether he only rode for this movie.
    I think my favorite thing is how they (brothers) can be flying along at horse galloping speed but then the closeup shot of the rear cassette (same they use entire movie) and they are in hill climb crawl gear, always with room to shift down..."Oldest trick in the book!" Lol....wow.

    Just the same, given the sheer lack of cycling movies of any type (or time) I enjoy seeing this pair of old flicks (along with BA, who incidentally was the same director IIRC)
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadwarrior View Post
    Then you don't get what Breaking Away is about. It might be one of the greatest films ever and the writing was outstanding. Every time I watch it I find something else I missed before.
    Ha ha..I understand exactly what Breaking Away is and love it. That doesn't make it a good movie, and the movie is chock full of cheese. A better sign of a good movie is when anyone can watch it and enjoy it a great deal without being interested in the subject that much. Non-cyclists view these movies much worse than we do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savagewolf View Post
    Ha ha..I understand exactly what Breaking Away is and love it. That doesn't make it a good movie, and the movie is chock full of cheese. A better sign of a good movie is when anyone can watch it and enjoy it a great deal without being interested in the subject that much. Non-cyclists view these movies much worse than we do.
    I think you are still missing his point on what it is about. It is one of my parents favorite movies and neither on of them has ever ridden a bike 5 miles.

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    I'm open ears to what it is all about, then. Please, enlighten us all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savagewolf View Post
    I'm open ears to what it is all about, then. Please, enlighten us all.
    It's about growing up. A lesson a few folks here could use.

    It still cracks me up to see Daniel Stern way back then.

    "That's OK Cyril...I understand..."

    I was in the bike racing aprt of the movie...it was fun to see what was a small budget film with young actors like Dennis Quaid and Stern and how it all turned out. Some only see the edited version. There's a whole scene where Mr. Ray Stoller takes Dave to the limestone quarry.

    This was Stern's first film ever.

    Hart Bochner (Rod,the swimmer) was also Harry Ellis in Die Hard ("Hans...bubby...I'myour white knight).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savagewolf View Post
    Ha ha..I understand exactly what Breaking Away is and love it. That doesn't make it a good movie, and the movie is chock full of cheese. A better sign of a good movie is when anyone can watch it and enjoy it a great deal without being interested in the subject that much. Non-cyclists view these movies much worse than we do.
    Incorrect.

    I also know the guy upon which the Dave Stoller character was based.
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