Campag4life

I have an earlier Toupe 155 with Ti rails that I just love. It has been and continues to be a great saddle and I ride it big miles weekly with no discomfort. I thought I would pick up another Toupe 155 and because of the miles I ride, thought maybe the Toupe Plus would be even better. Wrong.
I found the Toupe Plus to be less comfortable than the original...the extra padding felt weird for lack of a better description. I didn't experience pain per se with it...but it was overall much less comfortable than the original Toupe. So I am searching for another Toupe 155. Is the latest standard Expert Toupe with Ti rails like the original in feel? There is also a Gel model but I am weary now that I tried and sold the Toupe Plus...knowing that a softer cover saddle many times isn't more comfortable.

Is there a model Toupe out there that I should consider based upon your personal experience?
Thanks

SCochiller

Did you have the Toupe Team? I had a pair of them and they were great. I don't think they make it anymore.

Also, Specialized used to give you a 7-day return period to try out a saddle.

Campag4life

I generally pick up my saddles and parts on ebay. I would guess the model year of my Toupe is about 2010...no idea if its a Team or not version.
I really don't want one with carbon rails...Ti hollow rails are fine...but looking for the latest model that is comfortable...and the Plus wasn't so much.
I like the firm feel of the early Toupe.

SCochiller

This?

Bostic

The Toupe was changed. I have an older 143mm Ti that is well worn in and great on the double centuries I ride. It's showing its age however and if you press on one side it creaks loudly and has a noticeable sag to it. The newer Ti-rail Toupe I bought has a firmer shell and the rails are not as close to the seat as before (to mount on some posts easier). I've got over a thousand miles on it and while comfortable it hasn't 'broken in' like my original saddle. I suppose what made the originals great was also an issue over time.

tanguy frame

I have the same seat as Bostic (1 on each bike). Mine creaks now too.

Campag4life

That saddle looks nice. Is the Team an upscale version of the Toupe?

Below is my Toupe 155...an earlier model..carbon fiber appearance tips and rear pieces... with hollow Ti rails...no label as any given model:

SCochiller

It was the Team - (c) 2008. You can tell from the little Zertz inserts on the rear of the saddle. Hollow Ti rails - very comfy. I think it was one level up from the standard Toupe.