~$400 Wheelsets
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~$400 Wheelsets
I'm planning a new wheelset for my Tarmac, as the stock DT Axis 2.0 are quite heavy, won't stay true, and I'm overall unimpressed with them.
I'm a heavier guy(~235lbs) and want my wheels to stand up to me riding. I obviously don't mind truing them occasionally, but don't want to do so weekly. I'm not interested in carbon rims.
My initial plan(and potential current plan) is to build a wheelset with Novatec road hubs(with their skewers), double butted Sapim Laser spokes, brass nipples, and A23 rims(28H front, 32H rear). This would run me something like $360 shipped for all the parts, and I'd build them myself(I work p/t at a bike shop). On paper, they end up being just south of 1500g, but I'd estimate a little more once they're built. I have 32H F/R Novatec to A23 on my fixed gear and they've held up very well.
Looking at complete wheelsets, I'm having a hard time finding wheelsets that have more than 24 spokes that aren't ungodly heavy.
So, I was wondering if anybody has any recommendations on wheelsets that are 28H minimum, aluminum, black, somewhere around 1500g, and somewhere around $400.
Thanks in advance!
I'm a heavier guy(~235lbs) and want my wheels to stand up to me riding. I obviously don't mind truing them occasionally, but don't want to do so weekly. I'm not interested in carbon rims.
My initial plan(and potential current plan) is to build a wheelset with Novatec road hubs(with their skewers), double butted Sapim Laser spokes, brass nipples, and A23 rims(28H front, 32H rear). This would run me something like $360 shipped for all the parts, and I'd build them myself(I work p/t at a bike shop). On paper, they end up being just south of 1500g, but I'd estimate a little more once they're built. I have 32H F/R Novatec to A23 on my fixed gear and they've held up very well.
Looking at complete wheelsets, I'm having a hard time finding wheelsets that have more than 24 spokes that aren't ungodly heavy.
So, I was wondering if anybody has any recommendations on wheelsets that are 28H minimum, aluminum, black, somewhere around 1500g, and somewhere around $400.
Thanks in advance!
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swap out that A23's for some kinlin300's and should be a nice build
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So you are building these (SOB version) yourself: https://www.novemberbicycles.com/fsw-23/
Fwi, November puts the rider limit right at 235# for that set.
Fwi, November puts the rider limit right at 235# for that set.
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How about Kinlin's version of an A23: https://www.bikehubstore.com/category-s/162.htm
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Depending on what tire/pressures you run I would think you would be happier with a wider rim.
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So you are building these (SOB version) yourself: https://www.novemberbicycles.com/fsw-23/
Fwi, November puts the rider limit right at 235# for that set.
Fwi, November puts the rider limit right at 235# for that set.
It is good to have an "official" rating that I'm just barely within. I won't be getting heavier, so it should be fine.
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For some reason, it slipped my mind on my previous response, but yes, I do want a wider rim. I run 25mm Gator Hardshells currently, but would like to switch to GP4000's sometime before the spring. Will look into the wider Kinlin rim, thank you.
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Others have had issues with Kinlin rims leaving metal chards in their brake pads. I have seen this but in both cases the rider had cheap pads. Mine have always been used with stock Rival pads or Koolstops and I have not had the issue.
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Love my A23's, and I paid $650 from Prowheelbuilder with White Ind. hubs, so I think you're doing pretty good there.
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For around double the price there is also the HED C2 rim. I actually have a complete sets of wheels with A23's and the bikehubstore wide along with a Powertap built with the HED. The A23s exhibited a small braking pulse due to an uneven joint when new, but it wore down quickly enough. And while I can't say I noticed anything while riding, the BHS rims seemed to be the stiffest while building them, but it would make sense as they weigh a bit more than the other two. Other than that, all have performed well for me.
Others have had issues with Kinlin rims leaving metal chards in their brake pads. I have seen this but in both cases the rider had cheap pads. Mine have always been used with stock Rival pads or Koolstops and I have not had the issue.
Others have had issues with Kinlin rims leaving metal chards in their brake pads. I have seen this but in both cases the rider had cheap pads. Mine have always been used with stock Rival pads or Koolstops and I have not had the issue.
Nice! I've really enjoyed them on my Leader, that's why I figured I'd go with them again, but I'm not afraid to try something new or better.
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at your weight, i would look at a stouter build on the wheels if you truly want them to be maintenance free.
my opinion only, but i say forget the silly 1500g weight goal. you yourself weigh almost 1/4 of the way to 1000 pounds, a few hundred grams in the wheels isnt going to make a difference. with a deeper rim, and heavier gauge double butted spokes, 32 f+r, built 3x, you're going to have a much more reliable build, much more durable, with a slight weight penalty.
my opinion only, but i say forget the silly 1500g weight goal. you yourself weigh almost 1/4 of the way to 1000 pounds, a few hundred grams in the wheels isnt going to make a difference. with a deeper rim, and heavier gauge double butted spokes, 32 f+r, built 3x, you're going to have a much more reliable build, much more durable, with a slight weight penalty.
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at your weight, i would look at a stouter build on the wheels if you truly want them to be maintenance free.
my opinion only, but i say forget the silly 1500g weight goal. you yourself weigh almost 1/4 of the way to 1000 pounds, a few hundred grams in the wheels isnt going to make a difference. with a deeper rim, and heavier gauge double butted spokes, 32 f+r, built 3x, you're going to have a much more reliable build, much more durable, with a slight weight penalty.
my opinion only, but i say forget the silly 1500g weight goal. you yourself weigh almost 1/4 of the way to 1000 pounds, a few hundred grams in the wheels isnt going to make a difference. with a deeper rim, and heavier gauge double butted spokes, 32 f+r, built 3x, you're going to have a much more reliable build, much more durable, with a slight weight penalty.
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at your weight, i would look at a stouter build on the wheels if you truly want them to be maintenance free.
my opinion only, but i say forget the silly 1500g weight goal. you yourself weigh almost 1/4 of the way to 1000 pounds, a few hundred grams in the wheels isnt going to make a difference. with a deeper rim, and heavier gauge double butted spokes, 32 f+r, built 3x, you're going to have a much more reliable build, much more durable, with a slight weight penalty.
my opinion only, but i say forget the silly 1500g weight goal. you yourself weigh almost 1/4 of the way to 1000 pounds, a few hundred grams in the wheels isnt going to make a difference. with a deeper rim, and heavier gauge double butted spokes, 32 f+r, built 3x, you're going to have a much more reliable build, much more durable, with a slight weight penalty.
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I am very happy with my Vuelta wheels. I have the Corsa Superlites. 1460g and $350. $400 on their website...got mine new from a local ebay store.
https://www.vueltausa.com/vuelta-bicy...ad-wheels.html
Or I think Performance Bike has the Forte Titans again. Damn good wheelset for about $200.
https://www.performancebike.com/bikes...34_-1___400934
https://www.performancebike.com/bikes...32_-1___400934
https://www.vueltausa.com/vuelta-bicy...ad-wheels.html
Or I think Performance Bike has the Forte Titans again. Damn good wheelset for about $200.
https://www.performancebike.com/bikes...34_-1___400934
https://www.performancebike.com/bikes...32_-1___400934
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stiffer,slightly more aero, and stiffer .....oh and hoops are about half $$ of A23s
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A question to those that now run 23mm wide clinchers which I understand to be a bit less sensitive to pinch flats when running a tube. How much lower do you run your tire pressures generally compared to 19mm rim width?
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I weigh 180# and ride mediocre roads. With a 19mm rim and 23mm tire I usually run 100f/110r PSI. On one of my bikes I usually had 25mm tires on 19mm rims and got away with 85-90f and 100r without pinch flats and that is what I now do running 23mm tires on 23mm rims. I have about 10,000 miles in like this without a pinch flat.
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Check out Neuvation Cycling. I got a great set of race wheels there last year. They always have good deals and a few co-workers I know ride them as well.
https://www.neuvationcycling.com/
https://www.neuvationcycling.com/
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Check out Neuvation Cycling. I got a great set of race wheels there last year. They always have good deals and a few co-workers I know ride them as well.
https://www.neuvationcycling.com/
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I weigh 180# and ride mediocre roads. With a 19mm rim and 23mm tire I usually run 100f/110r PSI. On one of my bikes I usually had 25mm tires on 19mm rims and got away with 85-90f and 100r without pinch flats and that is what I now do running 23mm tires on 23mm rims. I have about 10,000 miles in like this without a pinch flat.
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I don't think you should be satisfied with having to true your wheels twice a year. That seems to indicate inadequate tension/ stiffness for your weight. Maybe you should look for a stronger rim and spokes, not worry about the weight. As others have said, weight of the wheels is the least of your weight related concerns.... You might also consider a rim with eyelets, allowing higher tension.
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I was looking around ..and I have NO idea bout the quality of these wheels but...
https://www.bicyclewheelwarehouse.com.../prod_155.html
designed it says for the 233+ # rider
$369 with ultegra hubs
$289 with 105 hubs BOth sets are heavier than you wanted...
https://www.bicyclewheelwarehouse.com.../prod_129.html
those are close...but i am just cutting and pasting with no knowledge of the product
https://www.bicyclewheelwarehouse.com.../prod_155.html
designed it says for the 233+ # rider
$369 with ultegra hubs
$289 with 105 hubs BOth sets are heavier than you wanted...
https://www.bicyclewheelwarehouse.com.../prod_129.html
those are close...but i am just cutting and pasting with no knowledge of the product
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Go with the 32 spoke 3x hand built. I've been down your road. Even at my weight (215) I live by this and have not had to walk home or broken a spoke since. I tried lighter / lower spokes (last set was a pair of Kysyrium Elites and knocked the rear out of whack on one 36 mile ride. Go with a pair of Shimano hubs (great bang for the buck, easy to maintain) rims are up to you. I've had great luck with CXP 33's. but I know there are others out there. Good luck