echotraveler

Im gonna ride tubulars!

Descided on the vittoria corsa evo sc, ribble has them for 68 bucks which seems like a GREAT deal.

1. ive read this tubs dont have removable valves. How do i treat the tire with sealant (stans)? Hve looked for videos on this and foun very little.

2. Glue or tape? Tape is easy to put on difficult to clean off. Glue seems like a more time consuming to put on but easier to clean. I have time, im inclined for glue.

Eithe glue or tape i want to put sealant, but havn't figured how?
Any help?

Im turning to tubular to try a new experiences.

jsigone

Some tubs have removable cores som e don't. I run stans in my my tubs and havent flatted yet after about 1100 miles. I'm glued...no tape.

escarpment

there are about a million threads on this subject. Everyone has their own opinion. higher end tires will have a removable valve core as a rule of thumb, although its not a perfect rule.

You are going to have to figure out what you want to do as far as adhesive. I would recommend glue as it is tradition and many will argue safer and easier to remove. The tape is not as messy to mount but a bit(h to remove, aparantly. I only have used continental glue.

and remember, its not rocket science

Andy Somnifac 

I use glue with my carbon wheels. I've heard horror stories removing tires from carbon using tape. Don't know the material of your wheels, but I figured I'd throw that out there.

I have some Conti Sprinters glued on, which have removable cores. I use Flat Attack sealant in my tubulars, since Stans can dry out (cleaning all the dried out globs from my tubeless convinced me to give something else a try) and the FA doesn't seem to.

caloso

Here's what's worked for me: Stretch the tubulars by putting them on a spare wheel (can be a clincher rim, it doesn't matter) and inflating them. Once they are stretched, put a coat of glue on them and let that coat dry over night. When you're ready to mount them, put a fresh coat on the tires, a coat on the rims, and then put the tire on the rims. Work around so they're even, and inflate to make sure. If they're not on straight, deflate and workd them straight with your thumbs. Let dry overnight, and ride.

I've used Effeto Mariposa caffelatex. Works well.

mkadam68

Vittoria Corsa's have a removable stem. Remove it. Put a little Stan's No Tube in there. Squeeze the tire and release, creating a suction action. Repeat ad nauseum. It'll all go down, just be patient.

Vittoria's will wear quick, but the ride quality is kinda worth it, IMHO. I can get them for you for cheaper than the $68 at Ribble. PM me.

I glue my Corsa's to my carbon rims. I actually use Continental cement. I currently use their cement specified for carbon rims. It's more rubbery and seems to come off easier (when replacing a tire) than their normal stuff (for aluminum rims). I have used their normal cement and no problems there, either.

I've used Vittoria's Mastik cement: incredibly strong, and I found a bit over kill. Hard to remove from the rim, too.

roca rule

xxcycle.com Has them cheaper

I <3 Robots

Vittoria has several stem sizes available for the Corsa. No need to use extenders...just buy the appropriate size stem for your wheels.


https://www.roadrunnersports.com/rrs/products/NYT1344/

Dalzhel

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004JKCHQW/...T1_ST1_3p_dp_1

I change the Vittoria valve by this one on my tubular rims, work perfect with vittoria tube and u can remove the core valve and put stan's inside

chaulky61

+ 1 to glue

topflightpro

I'll add another vote for Glue and longer Valve Stems.

sced

One day you will decide that tubulars really aren't worth the hassel, but you could have some fun on the journey there.

Glue.

Andy Somnifac 

So many people have said this. I've had to pull off a tire, open it up, patch, resew, reattach base tape, and reglue the tire, and never thought "boy, this is hard, why am I doing this?" Compared to riding the bike, the stuff off the bike is easy.

echotraveler

I appreciate the input. Gonna do stans with glue.
Seems like the best combo.

Cheers

roca rule

Vittorias usually have removable valve cores, remember tubular tires only mount on tubular specific rims. Xx cycle from France has them cheaper.

waters60

Vittoria glue. I remember Tubasti which was worthless and seemingly water soluble. I prefer the cheaper Vittorias which last 2/3 to 3/4 the length of time that a Corsa will but cost a lot less. I used to ride Corsas but got tired of pissing away $ 50.00 - $ 60.00 every time I got a flat. I usually get around 1500 - 1800 miles out of the Rally.
What will really test my devotion to tubulars will be if I ever get a new bike with wheels already built up!

Syncmaster

I just made the switch to Tubulars as well. Used Tufo tape to mount my Continental Sprinter tires and the whole process was incredibly easy and mess free.

I had to take a tire off already to replace my rim (manufacturer's defect, all sorted now) and I have to say it was totally not as hard as most people make it out to be with tape.

The tire took some brute force to pull off but once you pull off one section of the tire from the rim, the rest comes off no problem. What was interesting was that the tufo tape stuck to the TIRE's base tape, not the rim which I wasn't expecting.

But I had read that to remove the tape easily, you just needed to heat it up briefly with a hair dryer/heat gun and the warm tape would pull up no problem. That's exactly what I did and it removed from the tire's base tape very easily and cleanly. No issues.

love the feel of the tubular tires and the low weight in the wheels is awesome. Very happy with the switch!

ultraman6970

Tape is nice but is a real PITA to get the tubular off the rim if needed. Guys that are anal with the gluing or still cant figure it out how to glue a tubular w/o getting glue everywhere they tend to use tape. Dont get me wrong, tape is an awesome product, but try to take the tubular afterwards if you have a puncture

As for the liquids products to prevent punctures, my persona experience at least with one brand was that the crap was too old maybe and got built up around the valve area and ended up with a ball inside of the tubular, that tyre basically died.

The secret is to put just between 80 and 110 psi, no more, no less. If you put less you will puncture and if you put too much the tubular gets hard as a baloon and with a sharp pebble the thing will blow up.

This is when many will look at me weird, so take this or leave it ok? just old man talking... dont leave the air inside of the tubulars at the end of the day or when you are not using the wheels because some tubulars tend to expand, if expand the walls get thinner and i'm sure you want the 70 bucks to last as much as possible. You use the wheels you put air to them, you dont use the wheels you take the air out (like 50%). A lot of comments coming, but older guys using this things since back in the 60's and 70's do this... kids now a days if the ipad doesnt have an application to inflate to deflate the tubulars they wont even touch the valves.

Good luck.

hokie cycler

And you kids get off my lawn.

caloso

Yes, I've had mixed success with sealants. On the one hand, I know that Stan's saved a race for me by sealing a puncture in the last five laps of a crit. On the other hand, over time it mucked up the valve so much that I was unable to clear it and it made the tire unreinflatable. Short term win, long term losss.

JohnJ80

Exactly. My experience as well. I use Tufo tubulars with sealant and I get 1/6th the flats I got with a clinchers. When, infrequently, I do flat it's not big deal to get the tape off and the new tire on. I find it easier than clinchers.

J.

Syncmaster

see my post above yours and the post above this one. It's really not that hard to get the tape off the rim. At least not in my limited experience.

ultraman6970

Just read it, all cool but this is the part I have concerns with " ...The tire took some brute force to pull off but once you pull off one section of the tire from the rim..." hehehe I got that experience with the tape too and I do have a couple of more of those tapes moving around that i doubt i will use because if oyu have a puncture you cant spend like 2 hours (exaggerating) trying to take the darn tubular off the rim. I agree the installation is super clean using tape... that the tape is super sticky i agree aswell Not a bad product, the thing is at the moment of getting a puncture and you have to remove the tubular, thats all

JohnJ80

No. It doesn't take any longer than a clincher and often less. It just takes a little work to get it started and then you can strip it off quickly and easily. I carry a plastic tire lever to do that. It takes some effort with your thumbs and the lever to start it and then it's done. I can have it off in under a minute.

J.

merlinextraligh

This. Those tires are made for the valve stem to screw off. You add the sealant and screw the valve stem back on. You just need to buy the right length valve stem, ideally with the tire. If you have to buy the right size extra, they're reuseable on the next tire you buy.

Beats these. They're fine for tires that don't have the option of using a longer valve stem, but the Vittoria system is designed to obviate the need for these.