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    War on Britain's Roads

    BBC showing documented footage of some of the incidents that occur day to day on Britain's roads.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...ritains_Roads/

    Quite an interesting watch.

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    For some reason we are not able to watch this in the USA.

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    ahh damnit! i was hoping that wouldnt be the case. I cant say exactly how to bypass the content lock. On a completely unconnected tangent, proxy servers are run by nice people and make interesting conversation pieces.

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    try this: download expatshield (www.expatshield.com). the program gives you a UK internet address so you can view BBC and other Euro content. Be sure to turn it off when you're done - as US internet sites will think you're in the UK, and may deny you access.

    the video is worth watching, by the way.

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    ah cool cheers peckma, i saw that advertised before but thought you had to pay :S

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAE View Post
    ah cool cheers peckma, i saw that advertised before but thought you had to pay :S
    there's a free download; I think there is some premium content or features that may cost.

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    "You got to have eyes up yer whatsit!"

    Funny old Cockney geezer.
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    Fargin' hell, though, London's no Amsterdam, innit?
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    Haha its not all 'daily dicing with death' but i have to say that a lot of these incidents will be quite familiar with London riders, then again i'd wager that goes for most major cities.

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    The biggest challenge I found riding in London was navigating through traffic on narrow streets. I grew up riding in NYC streets which meant weaving through traffic with great precision but doing that in London was a bit more challenging when the cars are bunched closer together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peckma View Post
    try this: download expatshield (www.expatshield.com). the program gives you a UK internet address so you can view BBC and other Euro content. Be sure to turn it off when you're done - as US internet sites will think you're in the UK, and may deny you access.

    the video is worth watching, by the way.

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    full video available on youtube.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gb5FV0PSzM

    The video makes me thankful that I live in the Bay Area which is quite cycling friendly.
    Last edited by almondpliers; 12-06-12 at 09:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rousseau View Post
    Fargin' hell, though, London's no Amsterdam, innit?
    Amsterdam isn't particularly brilliant for cycling. I couldn't wait to get out into the country ... Amsterdam was nuts!

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    Just finished watching it, and as can be expected from the BBC it was very well done. Worth posting in A&S.
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    i had a number of close calls in london. but then again, i bet city riding is risky anywhere.
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    Quite interesting video. I can surely understand the tensions. Cities, especially older cities often have tough times changing thier infrastrusture to accomodate cyclists and automobiles safely on their streets. I am not sure I could be vigilant enough to ride on London streets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baj32161 View Post
    I am not sure I could be vigilant enough to ride on London streets.
    I've ridden in London, and it wasn't too bad. But it was the only place I've ever had another cyclist plow into my panniers as though he was trying to ride through them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machka View Post
    I've ridden in London, and it wasn't too bad. But it was the only place I've ever had another cyclist plow into my panniers as though he was trying to ride through them.
    Hence my post
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    Interesting video... too much to tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAE View Post
    BBC showing documented footage of some of the incidents that occur day to day on Britain's roads.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandsty...ad?INTCMP=SRCH

    Austin was particularly concerned by the footage of couriers weaving at high speed through traffic and pedestrians. It was shot in 2006 by a US film maker, Lucas Brunelle, who sells DVDs of his footage, something not mentioned in the programme. Austin said: "I cycle in London every week, and have been for years. I've seen lots of car drivers driving badly, lots of cyclists doing things they shouldn't, and everyone should obey the rules of the road. But I've not seen cycling like that. The idea that they present that as normal cycling is mad, irresponsible and dangerous."

    Charlie Lloyd from the London Cycling Campaign also said he was worried by this sequence: "The programme's integrity is destroyed by the use of six-year-old commercial video footage of professional cyclists doing reckless stunts, endangering themselves and everyone else. Showing this as real behaviour is as false as presenting a James Bond car chase as how average people drive to work. The programme makers chose to fan the flames of aggression on the roads, that can only increase the risk for all of us."

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    Australian tv made a similar show and even used some of the same footage:

    http://au.news.yahoo.com/sunday-nigh...-on-our-roads/

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    Always a few articles regarding collisions and bike politics in Britain (mixed in with some good stuff too) here:

    http://road.cc/
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