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    Traditional bend bar options

    Can anyone recommend some bars with traditional bend BUT a flat transition to the hoods. Preferably aluminum?

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    Pro Vibe 7s Round. That's them on the left compared to a 3T Rotundo on the right.


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    Most flat transition bars I'm aware of are "compact" which sort of goes with the sharper bend at the start of the drops that's normally needed to create the flat transition. Here's a review of a few bars that I found helpful. I got Deda Zero100 bars based on it and am quite satisfied with them.

    http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/...dlebars_197289

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    Check out Deda Newton Deep and 3T Tornova bars. Deda is classic Belgian shape - long reach, deep drop; 3T is a modernized traditional shape with short reach, medium drop and ovalized tops. Both have flat ramps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiery View Post
    Check out Deda Newton Deep and 3T Tornova bars. Deda is classic Belgian shape - long reach, deep drop; 3T is a modernized traditional shape with short reach, medium drop and ovalized tops. Both have flat ramps.
    Wow. Those 3Ts have seriously short reach.

    These Zipps might work too.


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    If you don't mind bars aimed at the retro/restoration market (i.e. silver and heavier), and you want big flat transitions, Velo Orange Grand Cru Course bars. Or the twice-as-expensive, slightly-lighter, only available in narrow and narrower Compass Cycles Grand Bois Maes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hapsmo911 View Post
    Can anyone recommend some bars with traditional bend BUT a flat transition to the hoods. Preferably aluminum?
    not sure what you mean by "bars with traditional bend BUT a flat transition to the hoods" - all Alu bars are rounded as they go from the bends to where the levers are placed... otherwise 'flat' /horizontal at the bends to the hoods is largely determined by the bar rotation...
    if you asking about a flattened bar from roughly the stem clamp to the bends...
    on Amazon, the Avenir 200 Flat Top bars

    I've been using them since Oct, and gotten to like them.
    They are a 'normal' reach bar, not compact, and even though the bends are not fully oldstyle rounded, they are not fully 'ergo' either, and I find them fine for drop positioning...
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    Quote Originally Posted by marqueemoon View Post
    Wow. Those 3Ts have seriously short reach.

    These Zipps might work too.

    I have the Zipp Service Course traditional and I can't find anything bad about it. I can spend all day in the drops. Just be careful of the sizing - I think they measure inside to inside, so my 40 is really more like a 38.5 - 39 ish, which I like anyhow as I prefer narrow bars. You might be interested in the Nitto-made reproductions that Compass Cycles has to offer. The Grand Bois Maes is ridiculously comfortable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robertkat View Post
    I have the Zipp Service Course traditional and I can't find anything bad about it. I can spend all day in the drops.
    Not to derail the thread, but that has more to do with fit than bar choice. Also, sounds like your bars could be lowered quite a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robertkat View Post
    I have the Zipp Service Course traditional and I can't find anything bad about it. I can spend all day in the drops. Just be careful of the sizing - I think they measure inside to inside, so my 40 is really more like a 38.5 - 39 ish, which I like anyhow as I prefer narrow bars. You might be interested in the Nitto-made reproductions that Compass Cycles has to offer. The Grand Bois Maes is ridiculously comfortable.
    Yeah, the only reason I have the VO bars over the Grand Bois Maes is that I wanted the 44 (which is 41ish at the hoods). Plus, it was cheap, and I figured I'd start a round of handlebar roulette on the inexpensive end, and if flat transitions did cure my hand pain I could go lighter later with a similar shape. (They did. I used to be in pain within 20 miles, and barely able to brake by 40 even when spending most of the time alternating drops and tops to avoid the hoods; my second ride on the new bars was 74 miles with not a twinge, mostly on the hoods.)

    Basically, even if people ridicule you for complaining of hand pain due to angled transitions, if you think you want this shape, TRY IT. So wish I'd figured this out ten years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marqueemoon View Post
    Pro Vibe 7s Round. That's them on the left compared to a 3T Rotundo on the right.

    The ProVibes seem to be exactly what i am looking for. The Zipps are the same basic design, BUT are a boat anchor. I wanted alloy bars, but it seems if you want this bend most models offered are fairly heavy. I ordered some Ritchey classics I am going to try. If they don't workout I will try the ProVibes.

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    Ritchey makes an old school bar called the "Classic" Curve:

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    I like the Ritchey bars, stems, and seatposts. Good quality, no nonsense design, decent pricing.
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    Check out the Nitto Noodle as well

    EDIT: nevermind. these will be too heavy for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by terrymorse View Post
    Ritchey makes an old school bar called the "Classic" Curve:

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    I like the Ritchey bars, stems, and seatposts. Good quality, no nonsense design, decent pricing.
    The Ritchey stuff comes from a good supplier and has always been a solid choice and a good value.
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    I have the Ritchey Classics (not the Classic Curves) with the silver Classic stem. I find the combo surprisingly flexy, but I'm using a shim with a 1" threadless steerer, so that could be contributing to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marqueemoon View Post
    Wow. Those 3Ts have seriously short reach.

    These Zipps might work too.

    One thing I've discovered regarding short reach bars is that reach numbers on paper don't mean squat. For example, the 3T Ergonovas advertised 77 reach compared to the FSA K Force, or Omega Compact, 80mm reach would lead you believe the reach to the hoods on the 3Ts would be shorter in nature. Not so, the FSAs allow for less reach to the hoods. I'm not positvie, however, I believe the same is true for the Ritchey short reach bars as well....the short reach isn't so short.

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    Just ordered a set of Deda Newton Deeps. 145 drop. 95 reach. Traditional bend, but not quite the flat tops you're looking for. Currently riding on the FSK K-wing compacts which have got some of the most comfortable flat ovalized tops, really comfy, but i've been wanting to try a bar with a bigger drop. Good article showing some of the more popular bars and their geometries with shifters mounted. http://ruedatropical.com/2009/03/roa...-bar-geometry/

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    I ordered the ProVibes, waiting for them to arrive. I got a set of Ritchey Classic Drops from PBK last night and I LOVE the hooks. Still unsure of the angle of the hoods, but well see after a good long ride. It will be nice to see the difference in the 7S bars to the Classics. I am currently on Ritchey WCS Curves. The classics weighed in at 258 the Curves are 246 so not a huge difference, both were 44cm.

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    I'm riding some Ritchey Evo Curve aluminum bars and they look like they might be what you're looking for. I'll take some pictures of them on my bike later so you can see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruindd View Post
    I'm riding some Ritchey Evo Curve aluminum bars and they look like they might be what you're looking for. I'll take some pictures of them on my bike later so you can see.

    Thanks, that would be cool. If you can get a side shot that would be great.

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    IMG_1704.jpg\

    Heres a pic of the ProVibes, Ritchey Classics, and the Ritchey WCS Curve side by side.

    So the ProVibe 7s came today. They weighed in at 275 in 42cm. I rode the Ritchey Classic bend for the last few days. Like I said I like the ramps a lot. I plan on riding the ProVibes this weekend. They are very very large in diameter and I havent tapped them yet so not sure if im going to like that. We will see.

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    If you don't end up using the pro vibes, I would be interested in them...if I read you right and they are aluminum 42cms. I happen to like mine quite a bit, and am used to the fat diameter...wouldn't mind a second pair for my rain bike. They are very stiff, the reach is nice and short as promised (I have short arms and small hands).

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3kmi View Post
    Not to derail the thread, but that has more to do with fit than bar choice. Also, sounds like your bars could be lowered quite a bit.
    Further thread derailing: I think your second sentence is a popular misconception based on the fact that too many cyclists don't have their fit perfectly dialed in. If you can spend all day in the drops that means you do have your fit perfectly dialed in; if you can't ride comfortably in the drops, your fit sucks and you should probably raise the bars...or lower the saddle...or change some other parameter of contact-point location.

    Drop bars are not designed for the rider to be uncomfortable in any position...but a lot of cyclists seem to set them up so they are, because they only calculate their contact-points based on riding on the hoods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hapsmo911 View Post
    Thanks, that would be cool. If you can get a side shot that would be great.
    I forgot until I saw your post just now.

    Heres a side profile, excuse my poor wrapping, it was salvaged tape.
    http://i.imgur.com/4vnw8aJ.jpg

    Heres an overhead, they've got a slight bend to make it a little more ergonomic when your hands are on the tops. The tops also flatten out a little, to give your more to hold onto.
    http://i.imgur.com/2boTiNm.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruindd View Post
    I forgot until I saw your post just now.

    Heres a side profile, excuse my poor wrapping, it was salvaged tape.
    http://i.imgur.com/4vnw8aJ.jpg

    Heres an overhead, they've got a slight bend to make it a little more ergonomic when your hands are on the tops. The tops also flatten out a little, to give your more to hold onto.
    http://i.imgur.com/2boTiNm.jpg
    Thanks for the time to post the pics. That is pretty much the same bend I am replacing. Ive been riding the Ritchey Classics, and the 7s's and am leaning toward the Classics. I like the leverage you have on the hoods with these bars. Still havent wrapped either yet so I guess I am still undecided. Maybe another week of swapping is in order. I may slam my stem and try the Provibes that way. See if I get the same feeling on the hoods with them lower as I do with the classics.

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