Slayer33

Hey everyone,

I'm looking to get a new set of wheels to replace my Shimano RS80 C24s. I am a recreational road rider, I don't race and I don't ride in large groups...

I have a 2011 Cannondale SuperSix and I enjoy long rides (~100km per ride). I'm not a lightweight, roughly 190lbs at best so I don't know if crosswind is an issue for me

I have been looking at a set of wheels, something more "aero" as I do a lot of solo riding, the terrain is flat to rolling hills.

I don't know a ton about depths etc, but I have been looking at a few sets of wheels around the $1000 price mark.

These are the ones that I have been looking at, any advice or different suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

1. Spinergy Stealth PBO 43mm/1700gr/$750
2. Spinergy Stealth FCC 43mm/1500gr/$1150
3. Reynolds Assault 46mm/1550gr/$1120
4. Fulcrum RedWind 80 80mm/1930gr/$1000
5. Mavic Cosmic Carbone SL 52mm/1740gr/$900
6. Ebay Basalt Carbon Clincher 50mm/1580gr/$450

Andy Somnifac 

58mm Boyd Carbon Clinchers on closeout for $880.

https://www.boydcycling.com/58mm-carbon-clinchers/

You can get their tubulars on closeout even cheaper.

But before you buy, ask yourself why you want new wheels. If there's a specific deficiency you feel, find a set that addresses that. If it's just because you want new wheels (nothing wrong with that), go for it.

seymour1910

Boyd is having a 2012 closeout on carbon clinchers 38mm, 50mm, and 58mm $840-$880 and he has the option for a higher spoke count.


https://www.boydcycling.com/carbon-clinchers/

LowCel 

Only ones I have owned have been the Stealth PBO's. I love those wheels even though I no longer own them. They are the best riding wheels I have ever ridden, they did something right with those spokes. With that said, I would also suggest looking at Mavik Ksyrium SL's. You can probably find them around your price range.

LowCel 

Also, welcome to the site.

seymour1910

yes, and be sure to share pics of the bike with the new wheels

bianchi10

I got Boyd 30mm clinchers on my 2012 supersix and I love them. Look great, perform great

Slayer33

Wow, thanks for all the replies! and thanks for welcoming me to the forum!

As for why I want to get new wheels, well, I have a little bit of money to spend and I want to spoil myself

I've always known that one of the best upgrades on any bike is typically the wheelset, not to say my RS80 C24s are bad at all, but for the amount of solo riding I do I think I would benefit from some aero wheels..

58mm BOYDs look amazing with the ghost graphics, is there a big difference between 50-58mm?

I am assuming I would have to go with the 24/28 spoke setup due to my weight? My shimano's only have a 16/20 lacing tho..

I have read a lot of ppl recommend Boyd wheels.. they must be pretty good..

RollCNY

I know nothing about carbon wheels, but after having bought 1 set of boutique wheels (Eastons) and two sets of hand builts, I would comment that it may be worth looking at hand builts. You could do something with whatever spoke count you wanted, with CX ray spokes, Velocity A23 rims, and nice hubs for probably $600-750, and have something easy to service and rugged as hell.

Just an opinion, if you are doing long rides, get an aluminum clincher with no-unique spokes that you could service if you find yourself stranded. 32 spokes aren't sexy, but they do seem to be reliable.

FPSDavid

Weight limit
210 pounds = 20/24
235 pounds = 24/28

Slayer33

I saw that, but I also saw the "recommended spoke count"

2 year warranty [h=4]*Weight limit - 210 pounds 20/24 - 235 pounds 24/28
*Spoke count recommendation - under 180 pounds 20/24 - 180 pounds and over 24/28[/h]

seymour1910

I can't answer the question as to what the difference is between the 50 and 58 other than depth. I personally don't like that much wheel. As for the spoke count I would say contact Boyd, no better opinion on his wheels than his really. You can contact him through the site.

Slayer33

Thanks, I sent Boyd an email. Hopefully he will get back to me with some good insight.

Slayer33

Booo.. Looks like they only have the 58mm Carbon Clincher left with the 20/24 lacing option left in stock.. nothing in the 50mm and no 58mm 24/28..

So its either 58mm Carbon Clincher with 20/24 or spend $200 more for the Reynolds Assault?

seymour1910

looks that way, I take it you have not interest in the 38? they have several sets of the 38's available with the 24/28 spoke count 1426g and only $860

Slayer33

Well I'm waiting to hear back from Boyd about the 58mm 20/24 setup for my 190lb weight.. if not I don't think I want to go 38mm, I don't see the aero advantage with those.

bianchi10

I would say the 38mm is the perfect wheel. still a little aero advantage but still really light and a great wheel climbing. you say you dont want crosswind but 58mm wheels will give you a fair amount of cross wind. a 38mm wheel will be a better choice IMHO. If you want more depth then look at his new 44mm option

NWS Alpine

What type of roads do you ride. The 20/24 will likely be fine. That being said I would always say go for the 24/28 but with such a significant discount I would go 20/24. Think of it as motivation to trim a little fat.

seymour1910

I agree, I don't think you'll be faster by going with a deeper wheel. Now if the deeper wheel is just more of your choice then I understand that, after all it is your money and your bike. The 44mm will be a good option, but at $1400 it's out of your price range and almost double the money.

Slayer33

Just got a reply fro Boyd, he's great, very good advice! I think I will go with either the 38mm 24/28 or 58mm 20/24 clinchers..

But I agree with your NWS Alpine, I can use the 20/24 setup as motivation to drop some unwanted fat!

seymour1910

Never geard one bad thing about Boyd or Nicole. Your bike will look great with either one, be sure to use the brake pads he gives you so you don't void your warranty. and also be sure to update this thread once you get the wheels installed, we would love to see it. are you going with white or ghosted labels.

bianchi10

Boyd is the MAN! I'd still recommend the 38mm wheelset if you dont want to fight cross winds. 58mm is a lot of wheel. If its just for looks then get what you want, but 38 will be the best of all worlds for your kind of riding in my opinion. Light, strong, stiff, great looking, still has an aero advantage, will climb really well, still do well in windy conditions when you are doing your flat riding with open fields.

NWS Alpine

Also remember that a carbon 58 with 20/24 spokes will still be a very stiff wheel. The shorter length spokes will have a larger bracing angle.

Slayer33

Hmmmm... well after sleeping on it, I haven't really gotten any closer to selecting my next wheelset.. I was really hoping to wake up knowing which to go for..

Here is my short list:

38mm Boyd CC - all round wheel, light, still a little aero and I can get the 24/28 lacing - $900 shipped

58mm Boyd CC - most aero, still light, I love the look of them and will come with the 20/24 lacing - $920 shipped

Reynolds Assault CC - 46mm depth, new CTg braking, and light - $1100 shipped

Easton EC90 SL Tubular - 38mm depth, super light, includes Conti Sprinter tires but were used for 1500kms. $800 shipped

Wait for Boyds 2013 models and get the 44mm clinchers - $1440 shipped (tho this is a lot more than I wish to spend...)

I think out of these, the Reynolds Assault CC and the 38mm Boyd CCs are my 2 faves.. I would love the 58mm Boyds, but I don't want to regret buying deep wheels when it comes to crosswinds.

seymour1910

38's with 24/28 spoke count still get my vote....where do yo live...they are $885 shipped to me in Virginia
either way you are under budget by at least $100 which can be spent on tires, tubes, wheelbags ($45) at Boyd.