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Skewer squeak. Is it worth swapping to Shimano skewers?

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Old 03-26-13, 07:32 PM
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Skewer squeak. Is it worth swapping to Shimano skewers?

Long story short. What I thought was a BB noise, and later thought to be a headset issue was finally located to front QR. Lubing it and making it really tight makes the squeak go away but I came across this today:

https://www.bikeradar.com/gear/articl...skewers-36417/

I have skewers with those external cams, and that's where the squeak is I think.

So, I've read about how good Shimano skewers are before too, but is it really true? If I buy Shimano, is it worth the 22 dollars or so extra for each set for Ultegra over 105? I need 2 sets so that's about 45 dollar difference.

Finally, seeing 105s for about 18 and Ultegra for about 30 at Amazon. Sounds correct?

Thanks guys.
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Found these at Velo Orange for 18 for a pair. Any feedback?

https://store.velo-orange.com/index.p...e-skewers.html
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i use these:



very inexpensive, very clean looking and very light. work great for me.

caveat. you'll hate these the first five times you forget to get the wrench before attempting to remove the wheel. but you'll get over it.
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To the OP, any skewer can squeak if not greased. You've got a good internal cam skewer, and you've fixed your problem. Leave well enough alone.

To Huey... Campagnolo is rolling over in his grave. The QR was a major step forward. Why do we want to go backwrds close to 100 years later?
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To the OP, any skewer can squeak if not greased. You've got a good internal cam skewer, and you've fixed your problem. Leave well enough alone.

To Huey... Campagnolo is rolling over in his grave. The QR was a major step forward. Why do we want to go backwrds close to 100 years later?
for racing with a service vehicle behind them and facilitating first gen derailleurs, ya. but when i'm home wrenching on the bike, it makes no difference. and if i get a flat on the road, usually i'm so bummed, a couple of seconds to get out the multitool over and above getting out the patch kit, tire irons and pump, is neither here nor there for me.

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Merlinextraligh,

I have ext cam ones, so you do think switching to internal cam ones are worth the effort? I have no lawyer tabs on my forks, and just releasing the lever the wheel drops out. Getting a bit worried after reading about ext cam ones maybe not being secure enough.

Hueyhoolihan,

I often take off front wheel and mount the bikes in the back of my mini van. Would avoid an extra wrench.
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Originally Posted by deepakvrao
Merlinextraligh,

I have ext cam ones, so you do think switching to internal cam ones are worth the effort? I have no lawyer tabs on my forks, and just releasing the lever the wheel drops out. Getting a bit worried after reading about ext cam ones maybe not being secure enough.

Hueyhoolihan,

I often take off front wheel and mount the bikes in the back of my mini van. Would avoid an extra wrench.
you saying you haul your bikes to where you want to ride them but don't take along a multitool?

don't say i can't split a hair with the best of them.

but feel free to take your turn. i won't respond, i promise. scout's honor.

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fwiw, I have never had any issues with Shimano skewers.
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Ultegra's aren't that much better than 105s. If it were me, i'd get the 105s.
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Originally Posted by deepakvrao
...is it worth the 22 dollars or so extra for each set for Ultegra over 105?...

No.
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Originally Posted by deepakvrao
I have skewers with those external cams, and that's where the squeak is I think.
Be sure that's where it is before you spend money.

For me, skewers are like seatposts, if they work right, I don't think about them.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
To Huey... Campagnolo is rolling over in his grave. The QR was a major step forward. Why do we want to go backwrds close to 100 years later?
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Thanks guys. Yes, sure the squeak is from the front QR. Ordering the 105s tonight.
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This is new to me. I've never lubed a QR and never heard them object. However, I will now be advised.
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Originally Posted by deepakvrao
Thanks guys. Yes, sure the squeak is from the front QR. Ordering the 105s tonight.
I had the same problem with the front after switching to really stiff wheels. A 7800 skewer fixed it.
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Originally Posted by Smiziley
Theft.
And here I thought it was all about weight.

I've never heard about anyone having a problem with Shimano skewers but they're really, really heavy...like 110 grams a set. Who has enough power to drag that kind of weight up a hill? Those Control Techs will save you something like 85 grams.

Of course, I could save that much weight with a shave and a haircut.
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I had a major issue with Salsa skewers. They sure were pretty, and went really well on my custom steel dream bike.

Then about 2,000 miles in, I started to get brake rub, badly, when standing to climb. It got bad enough that it started happening every time I pulled away from a stop. My heart sank. I checked the frame over with all the OCD I could muster. Nothing. I re-centered the brakes. Still happened.

Then I changed the wheels to my winter set -- and they were fine.

Two bike mechs later, still no answer. Spokes re-tensioned and dish checked. Still happened. WTF?

Then it dawned on me -- skewers. Turns out the external cam had been chewed up, and had an indentation in it from repeated wheel removal and re-application. And when I was mashing it, the cam was deforming further under the skewer, and the wheel was moving slightly. The movement was amplified along the length of the spokes, and made worse by a stiff frame.

So I pulled the old Ultegras off the winter wheels. Never had the issue again. Even tightened the brakes back up.

BTW, anyone want lightly used Salsa skewers? I'll give you a good deal...
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