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merlinextraligh 04-04-13 11:11 AM

I've got Zipp 404 Firecrest clinchers, and the generation before Zipp303 tubulars.

I've descended in the rain in the Rockies on the 303's without any braking issues, and I'm not a small guy.

Right pads and the braking is fine.

contango 04-04-13 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sautan (Post 15465932)
I have struck a deal on the cervelo S5 package. I need to pick between Zipp Firecrest 404 Clincher and Mavic Cosmic Carbon SLR.

Review - 404 has better aero compares to Mavic but Mavic has better brake track and will last longer. How true and those who has experience? I have heard overheat while braking on the carbon track liek Zipp 404...

Your thought ASAP. I need to decide within next couple hours before the shop close in East Coast.

Is this for real? You're dropping this kind of cash and want to trust the words of random people on the internet who may never have even used the products in question?

I've been looking at something more the level of Mavic Cosmic or Ksyrium wheels (i.e. about 1/5 the price of yours) and want to get it right. If you're really so unbothered about which wheels to get flip a coin or something, or go for the ones with the shiniest decals when you go to collect them.

Jason N Georgia 04-04-13 12:45 PM

Zipps - from another random stranger

Ross11 04-04-13 03:51 PM

Having ridden both and not blindly presuming, MAVIC!!!!!! First, Mavic SLR breaking is far superior to the Zipps, you will never have to worry about them on descents as you might with the Zipps. The Mavics are stronger, come with tyres and wheel bags ($200 ish), are stiffer, and look way better than the Zipps. Plus, Garmin Cervelo rides Mavic which will make you look even better.

The Mavics also have much better skewers.

Zipps are supposedly better because there aerodynamics is slightly better. They are not better. For those who disagree, ride both sets before you reply to me.

Mavics are much better for descending and criteriums.


Edit: You should test ride them if possible and people on the internet shouldn't be your deciding factor. Most of the people commenting probably don't own aero wheels and are basing their reccomendation on what other have on the internet. Although I speak the truth, you have no way of knowing.

abstractform20 04-04-13 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by contango (Post 15469664)
Is this for real? You're dropping this kind of cash and want to trust the words of random people on the internet who may never have even used the products in question?

I've been looking at something more the level of Mavic Cosmic or Ksyrium wheels (i.e. about 1/5 the price of yours) and want to get it right. If you're really so unbothered about which wheels to get flip a coin or something, or go for the ones with the shiniest decals when you go to collect them.


do yourself a favor and GET HED.

v70cat 04-05-13 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abstractform20 (Post 15470971)
do yourself a favor and GET HED.

Do your self a favor and provide information.

contango 04-05-13 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abstractform20 (Post 15470971)
do yourself a favor and GET HED.

Thanks for the tip, my wife was quite happy to oblige. I'm not sure what that has to do with the OP's wheel selection though.

Bah Humbug 04-05-13 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v70cat (Post 15472467)
Do your self a favor and provide information.

I'm not sure this thread really warrants that sort of effort.

StanSeven 04-05-13 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by contango (Post 15472628)
Thanks for the tip, my wife was quite happy to oblige. I'm not sure what that has to do with the OP's wheel selection though.

I think that advice meant when you're happy, you are more objective making buying decisions. The 41 comes through again!

sautan 04-15-13 12:51 PM

I got the ZIPP 404!!! THANKS.

Nachoman 04-15-13 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thechemist (Post 15466475)
I average 100 miles a week on zipp 404s. I like them but I do have the older aluminum brake track which I would trade for all carbon in a heartbeat.

Funny, I feel the opposite. I've got the older 303s, with the aluminum brake track, and am very happy at the ease on switching back and forth to different (aluminum) wheelsets.

v70cat 04-15-13 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sautan (Post 15513245)
I got the ZIPP 404!!! THANKS.

You will be happy and I will trade you my Mavics plus $500 (my pay) if you are not.

DonDenver 04-15-13 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross11 (Post 15470772)
Having ridden both and not blindly presuming, MAVIC!!!!!! First, Mavic SLR breaking is far superior to the Zipps, you will never have to worry about them on descents as you might with the Zipps. The Mavics are stronger, come with tyres and wheel bags ($200 ish), are stiffer, and look way better than the Zipps. Plus, Garmin Cervelo rides Mavic which will make you look even better.

The Mavics also have much better skewers.

Zipps are supposedly better because there aerodynamics is slightly better. They are not better. For those who disagree, ride both sets before you reply to me.

Mavics are much better for descending and criteriums.


Edit: You should test ride them if possible and people on the internet shouldn't be your deciding factor. Most of the people commenting probably don't own aero wheels and are basing their reccomendation on what other have on the internet. Although I speak the truth, you have no way of knowing.

Wait...wut?! And you went back after 4 hours for an *edit* to this :lol:


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