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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina View Post
    China and Taiwan are not the same place. They also differ in terms of manufacturing capabilities and business practices. Don't confuse the two.
    I know. Perhaps my post was confusing. sorry.
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    This is a funny thread. Perhaps the least-informative "review" I've ever read!

    As an aside, in my world (machining) the Taiwanese are generally respected as tooling (cutters, fixtures, etc) and machine tool (mill, lathe, etc) builders. In fact my mill is Taiwanese.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Long Tom View Post
    This is a funny thread. Perhaps the least-informative "review" I've ever read!

    As an aside, in my world (machining) the Taiwanese are generally respected as tooling (cutters, fixtures, etc) and machine tool (mill, lathe, etc) builders. In fact my mill is Taiwanese.
    My wife sells Injection Molding Machines and works with mold makers every day. As an extension of what you are saying, Taiwanese made molds are pretty well regarded in her industry and stack up against anything made elsewhere.

    The Chinese molds, on the other hand, are cheaper but often very problematic. It is very difficult to get a Chinese mold to work on one machine and then transfer it to another. Needless to say she has to constantly educate her foreign customers on the difference.
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    Has anyone ridden these long term? What's the durability like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by donrhummy View Post
    Has anyone ridden these long term? What's the durability like?
    Here is another review: http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ghlight=yishun

    Perhaps guadzilla will see this and give an update on durability. Or maybe PM him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina View Post
    My wife sells Injection Molding Machines and works with mold makers every day. As an extension of what you are saying, Taiwanese made molds are pretty well regarded in her industry and stack up against anything made elsewhere.

    The Chinese molds, on the other hand, are cheaper but often very problematic. It is very difficult to get a Chinese mold to work on one machine and then transfer it to another. Needless to say she has to constantly educate her foreign customers on the difference.

    I have a local injection molding company owner on my team and we talk about it often as we have had some ideas for products. It used to be that because of the pricing difference he was able to afford having molds made in China and still have a toll and die maker on staff to rework the molds when they showed up....and have it still be less expensive than a better quality mold made by anyone else.

    He said that started changing when the Chinese prices started skyrocketing sometime like last year or so.

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