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Chain rubbing on derailer on new bike. what should i do?

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Old 04-09-13, 12:40 PM
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Chain rubbing on derailer on new bike. what should i do?

Hi all, i hope someone can advise me here of what i should do.

I bought a new bike from Halfords and i have had it back in the shop 4 times now trying to get this problem resolved. The bike i bought is this one - https://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/s...egoryId_165710

i love the bike but the chain rubbing is loud and annoying. It used to make this noise when i had the gears in the 4 smallest rings, but now it only does it in the 2 smallest rings. i really like to use these gears especially going down hills and the noise is really annoying me.

Any tips on what i should do?
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What gear are you in on the front? If in the small front ring then rubbing in the two or three smallest gears is pretty common. If in the large front gear then rubbing in the biggest two or three gears is pretty common.
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are you perhaps cross chaining? are you trying to do 34-12 or do you mean big ring up front and smallest two in the back cause rubbing?
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Are you perhaps misusing the trim function?
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Are you sure thast the chain is routed correctly? Not running over any non rolling parts?
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Remove front derailleur and discard.
Emotional, spiritual and technical support for this may be found in 1x10 thread.

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Originally Posted by Brandonub
Are you perhaps misusing the trim function?
https://techdocs.shimano.com/media/te...9830682074.PDF
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Originally Posted by Gerry Hull
Remove front derailleur and discard.
Successful segue from another thread.

OP, try YouTube for front derailleur adjustment.
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Read this and get back with us. I fear, as other have said, you are trying to use a gear combination you should not be using.

https://www.bicyclechainrings.com/crosschaining.html
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I fear that the OP has forgotten which internet forum he made this post in.
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Originally Posted by LowCel
What gear are you in on the front? If in the small front ring then rubbing in the two or three smallest gears is pretty common. If in the large front gear then rubbing in the biggest two or three gears is pretty common.
A properly adjusted bike will not rub in any gear, including the big-big and the small-small combinations.

To ensure no front derailleur rub, do the following:

1. Set the correct cage height of the front derailleur, no more than 3 mm above the big chain ring:



2. Align the front derailleur cage with the big chain ring:



3. Set the low limit screw by putting the gears in the small front-big rear combination and adjusting the screw until it barely clears the chain:



4. Set the high limit screw so FD just clears the chain in the big front-small rear combination:



5. Adjust the cable tension to allow proper "trim" (trim: use of intermediate click setting of front derailleur lever to avoid rubbing).

Here's how I do this, and it's goof proof:

a. Make sure the front derailleur's high set screw is properly set (see step 4 above).
b. Adjust the front derailleur's cable tension so that shifting to the big ring just barely moves the derailleur against the high set screw (but not too much, or the cable will become too tight).

If steps a. and b. were done correctly, the trim setting will also be correct.

I can teach a monkey how to do this in about 15 minutes (and I have ). The key is to be systematic and take it one step at a time.
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Or is simply watching TV and having a nice snack. This cycling thing is way overrated.
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Nice guide, Terry. Saved for future reference!
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
A properly adjusted bike will not rub in any gear, including the big-big and the small-small combinations.

I can teach a monkey how to do this in about 15 minutes (and I have ). The key is to be systematic and take it one step at a time.
Pls post vid of self teaching monkey, thx
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What will the monkey do if the bike has a banana seat on it?
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Originally Posted by Gerry Hull
Pls post vid of self teaching monkey, thx
The monkey's kind of camera shy.
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Heh Terry, I would be happy to bring my bike in and see if you can get small-small to not rub on my triple (26-11 would be the combination in question). No one has been able to get more than 5 gears of non rub in the back while on the granny ring, and to be honest I don't need more, but some combinations will always rub, no matter how smoove you think you are at derailleur adjustment.

I will agree, however, if the front is a standard double or a compact, there should be no rubbing
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Chain behavior is disturbingly hypothesis-resistant, if not altogether immune.

I hope that would help Homer solve his nagging little problem.

But I am afraid intervention on a grander scale will be required.
I propose that the best minds on the forum make immediate travel arrangements to Homer's city of residence. Working together, it could be prearranged what tools, manuals, code books, parts and machinery may be required. And perhaps it is overkill, but it is always good to have a mental health professional on-hand. All this may come at some expense, but one shouldn't cut corners when a man's well-being is at stake.

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I propose that the best minds on the forum make immediate travel arrangements to Homer's city of residence.
And leave you here alone.
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
A properly adjusted bike will not rub in any gear, including the big-big and the small-small combinations.

To ensure no front derailleur rub, do the following:

1. Set the correct cage height of the front derailleur, no more than 3 mm above the big chain ring:



2. Align the front derailleur cage with the big chain ring:



3. Set the low limit screw by putting the gears in the small front-big rear combination and adjusting the screw until it barely clears the chain:



4. Set the high limit screw so FD just clears the chain in the big front-small rear combination:



5. Adjust the cable tension to allow proper "trim" (trim: use of intermediate click setting of front derailleur lever to avoid rubbing).

Here's how I do this, and it's goof proof:

a. Make sure the front derailleur's high set screw is properly set (see step 4 above).
b. Adjust the front derailleur's cable tension so that shifting to the big ring just barely moves the derailleur against the high set screw (but not too much, or the cable will become too tight).

If steps a. and b. were done correctly, the trim setting will also be correct.

I can teach a monkey how to do this in about 15 minutes (and I have ). The key is to be systematic and take it one step at a time.
Terry, all I can say is your should have prefaced your post with the word "Ideally..." Yeah, that is how it is supposed to be, but more often than not it ain't. If you can get everything to not rub except the extreme cross chained positions, well that is pretty good. And what does it matter since you aren't going to actually use those combinations anyway. Your instructions are helpful though. All of us have to know how to get the best result possible.

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Absent that, group prayer can sometimes be surprisingly effective with chain-rub.
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Throw it out, buy a new bike.
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Originally Posted by Gerry Hull
Absent that, group prayer can sometimes be surprisingly effective with chain-rub.
Is that double entendre? You aren't talking about sitting in a circle are you?
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Originally Posted by clausen
and leave you here alone.
lmfao
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Is that double entendre? You aren't talking about sitting in a circle are you?
Uh, yeh that doesn't sound quite right does it
Ok, so group chain rub can be..uh..
Look, something burning in kitchen I gotta go
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