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    Quote Originally Posted by jsutkeepspining View Post
    i have used strava in the past on occasion. i have a few kom's, but really i don't see much appeal due to limited power analysis (even the new fancy pants stuff is weak compared to wko+ or GC, and this one would coast me money unlike GC). i would post more, but i don't always want to post up my power files. simple stuff, no reason giving away how fat i am

    edit: kom's like this ain't fun http://app.strava.com/activities/18208271#332016149
    What's not fun about that KOM? Seems like a good segment to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by photogravity View Post
    I'm using MapMyRide. There are far too many testosterone driven racers on Strava, so I've not joined as a result. While I care about comparing my performance to my previous rides over time, I'm not very interested in comparing myself to the average roadie. So long as I can keep pace on a century or complete a brevet, I'm good.
    Strava lets you compare past performance as well, and your social network of friends who you ride with and add on Strava is up to you. Nobody is asking you to add testosterone driven racers.
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    I just joined strava 2 weeks ago and it has been cool just to watch my own personal progress. Gives me something to compare and race against. I know I will never be #1 KOM on the hill rides we do, but I was pleasantly surprised with where I stand against other riders on the same segments. I dont look at it to seriously, more fun than anything along with being able to track your miles.

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    I created a segment near my house and was KOM for a few days. Until Taylor Phinney rode by.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtwilson View Post
    What's not fun about that KOM? Seems like a good segment to me.
    I think he meant going all out for 2:30 is not fun. Puke inducing and satisfying if you get the KOM perhaps, but not fun.

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    I did two long-distance events in the last month. Both were officially timed.

    4/13, "Mulholland Challenge". Median time (Strava): 9:27. Median time (official, preliminary results): 9:47.
    3/23, "Solvang Double Century". Median time (Strava): 13:30. Median time (official): 13:49.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IP Freely View Post
    Here's an exemplary segment. As you can see, you pretty much have to be a beast to be in the top 500 or so.


    http://app.strava.com/segments/620825
    Well now if you're going to ask if Strava users on *that* segment are faster than average, then I'd say yes. People that willingly ride bikes up 6%+ grades are going to be stronger than an average person on a bike IMO, and when you compound that with the cross section that also uses an app to upload their stats I think you know what you're going to get.

    If you pull the strava segment from a mup in a park, it's probably a lot less competitive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamster View Post
    I did two long-distance events in the last month. Both were officially timed.

    4/13, "Mulholland Challenge". Median time (Strava): 9:27. Median time (official, preliminary results): 9:47.
    3/23, "Solvang Double Century". Median time (Strava): 13:30. Median time (official): 13:49.
    I could see average speed being off ... but how does one get timing wrong?
    Doesn't strava work with some kind of start/stop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregf83 View Post
    I think he meant going all out for 2:30 is not fun. Puke inducing and satisfying if you get the KOM perhaps, but not fun.
    I call that fun ... sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bah Humbug View Post
    In my experience, Strava is for the mid-level guys - they care, but don't race or train based on power as much as the roadies or triathletes. Those guys are even faster, and they're on TrainingPeaks or Garmin Connect.
    Most bike races around here have at least 30 guys posting results on Strava. Seems similar elsewhere. Not as many pros but amongst amateur racers I would say the number using Strava is close to 50% and growing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IP Freely View Post
    Here's an exemplary segment. As you can see, you pretty much have to be a beast to be in the top 500 or so.


    http://app.strava.com/segments/620825
    That section of road is always incorrectly referred to River Road when it's actually Henry Hudson Drive.
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    In other words, for any but the steepest and most out-of-the-way segments, we can assume that peloton times are being posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdelaaR View Post
    I could see average speed being off ... but how does one get timing wrong?
    Doesn't strava work with some kind of start/stop?
    I'm thinking that's why it's off. Official ride time includes stops for water, lights, stop signs, etc... on your way. Strava only includes "moving" time, say when your speed is above a certain mph (I'm unsure what it is).

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    I think Strava is the best thing ever!
    It allows me to see the training patterns, power output, mileage etc of many of the guys I race against...
    Also allows me to humble big mouth know it alls who shoot their mouth off about how fast they are (we have many of them)...

    And no my real name has never been on strava nor has my picture...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkadam68 View Post
    I'm thinking that's why it's off. Official ride time includes stops for water, lights, stop signs, etc... on your way. Strava only includes "moving" time, say when your speed is above a certain mph (I'm unsure what it is).
    That is incorrect.

    For each ride Strava will display a "Time" which is your moving time. As well as an "Elapsed Time" which is total amount of time the device was recording.

    The Strava mobile display will usually only show the "Time" value but both metrics are displayed on the website.

    The threshold for what constitutes "moving" appears to be fairly low. I have some rides where I never actually stopped my bike and Time=Elapsed Time where the minimum speed registered is 4.0 mph. Of course, given the error rate of GPS-based speed, this may be an incorrect value but I believe the sentiment is correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregf83 View Post
    I think he meant going all out for 2:30 is not fun. Puke inducing and satisfying if you get the KOM perhaps, but not fun.
    yes, plus the fact i put in like 15 seconds to the second best time, so it's not even like i can goof around with another 1/2
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregf83 View Post
    Most bike races around here have at least 30 guys posting results on Strava. Seems similar elsewhere. Not as many pros but amongst amateur racers I would say the number using Strava is close to 50% and growing.
    Here too.

    Por ejemplo: http://app.strava.com/activities/48882821
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    Quote Originally Posted by kv501 View Post
    This makes me giggle. I use Strava, but I'm literally the only (and I mean only) person using it for cycling within a 40 mile radius. I live in NW Iowa and I'd have to drive 82 miles round trip to get to the nearest segment that isn't mine.
    You're just encouraging "strava stalkers" who will track you down and pwn you on all of your segments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IP Freely View Post
    So, I guess my question is, are slow people not using Strava at all? While I'm out riding I certainly don't feel like I'm the slowest guy out there, but Strava says otherwise. Has anyone else encountered this?
    It's kind of like how people have 50 million friends on facebook, but when they turn the computer off they still live in their mom's basement.
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    I use Strava and I like to describe my speed as "explosively slow".

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    passing people on a ride means nothing becasue someone u passed could have been on their zone1 recovery ride and you (or others) mr. speed gonzales could be blasting by at max speed. That comparison doesn't really tell u anything. The fact that people are passing you on rides tells me something though.

    also on a climb, rider-type comes into play. Loads of bic bois can hammer flats and crush down hill segments, place high, but when the road goes upward..... well the cupcakes weigh them down.

    this isn't even me trying to troll, just saying things that makes sense in real life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdelaaR View Post
    I could see average speed being off ... but how does one get timing wrong?
    Doesn't strava work with some kind of start/stop?
    Timing is different because only a subset of participants uploads their data on Strava, and the ones who do tend to be faster than the ones who don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
    Perhaps you are familiar with the term "segment poaching?"

    Here's a fun one near me and it's long enough and hilly enough that it's difficult to "poach"... but check out the first page and see who's dominating the stats:

    http://app.strava.com/segments/830079
    The leaders on that segment were racing in the TOC. Still an impressive list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdms mvp View Post
    passing people on a ride means nothing becasue someone u passed could have been on their zone1 recovery ride and you (or others) mr. speed gonzales could be blasting by at max speed. That comparison doesn't really tell u anything. The fact that people are passing you on rides tells me something though.

    also on a climb, rider-type comes into play. Loads of bic bois can hammer flats and crush down hill segments, place high, but when the road goes upward..... well the cupcakes weigh them down.

    this isn't even me trying to troll, just saying things that makes sense in real life.
    True statement.
    A teammate and I were on a fun recovery ride when a dude came flying by us (common Strava segment), slowed down and gave us the look of disgust trying to taunt us on to go. My teammate and I looked at each other, paused for a second then both burst out laughing at this guy pulling away from us...
    Perhaps if he had been there a few minutes prior he would have seen my teammate and I go head to head in a 1,600+ watt drag race (I lost to the little punk)...
    Me thinks that dude may have been in over his head had we given him a go...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdms mvp View Post
    The fact that people are passing you on rides tells me something though.
    What exactly does that tell you?

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