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    Quote Originally Posted by Campag4life View Post
    Good luck with the new bike Sabby. Know you will love it and well done on the due dilligence.
    Thanks...and thank you for your help. This has been a very informative process.

    I'm going to update this thread with my initial impressions and then later after I've had a chance to ride it some, maybe a month later. Maybe the whole thread will help someone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpenmanparker View Post
    After you are riding your bike for a little while, if you start thinking you would like to lower your bars (and the stem is already in the down position), start moving the spacers one at a time from underneath the stem to above the stem. When you get it just as you want it, then you cut the steerer tube down to accommodate the lower number of spacers you prefer and discard the ones above the stem. But that is a trial and error thing, so you don't cut until you are sure. And even with your DIY proclivity, steerer cutting in something that might best be left to a shop. There is little sense to buying the fixtures for doing it right as rarely as one needs to do it.

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    Ah, yes, that kind of work I would either bring to a bike shop or to my friend Denton, who builds up his own motorcycles and who is the guy who taught me how to change the suspension on my minivan. He has the kind of equipment for this. I know he's had to cut parts when putting together a motorbike. If not, I'll bring it to a bike shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabby View Post
    Thanks...and thank you for your help. This has been a very informative process.

    I'm going to update this thread with my initial impressions and then later after I've had a chance to ride it some, maybe a month later. Maybe the whole thread will help someone.
    I will say this...what separates you from others is your keen mind and the action you have taken. You deserve what you have done in other words. Actually most of us deserve what we get...either with weak effort or the strong effort that you have invested.

    Cycling is the same way...you get out what you put in. Weather has finally turned in the midwest and rode last night 50 miles with my friends. We hammered a good half of the ride....we were flying under the evening sun in very warm temps. There are very few things in life that feel as good as riding a road bike fast with friends. A natural high. You will love the experience Sabby and all the best in your cycling endeavors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Campag4life View Post
    I will say this...what separates you from others is your keen mind and the action you have taken. You deserve what you have done in other words. Actually most of us deserve what we get...either with weak effort or the strong effort that you have invested.

    Cycling is the same way...you get out what you put in. Weather has finally turned in the midwest and rode last night 50 miles with my friends. We hammered a good half of the ride....we were flying under the evening sun in very warm temps. There are very few things in life that feel as good as riding a road bike fast with friends. A natural high. You will love the experience Sabby and all the best in your cycling endeavors.

    Well, thank you, that's a nice thing to say!

    I can't wait to get into long rides.

    My bike comes tomorrow! And then I get to spend a day or so putting it together and getting it tweaked! It's going to be so much fun.

    I also just bought a couple torque wrenches. I realized my toolkit didn't have them and I was getting a bike with carbon parts. I never needed that with my steel bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabby View Post
    Well, thank you, that's a nice thing to say!

    I can't wait to get into long rides.

    My bike comes tomorrow! And then I get to spend a day or so putting it together and getting it tweaked! It's going to be so much fun.

    I also just bought a couple torque wrenches. I realized my toolkit didn't have them and I was getting a bike with carbon parts. I never needed that with my steel bike.
    I use a torque wrench pretty exclusively on the seat clamp in particular...for both carbon and Ti bikes. 51 in-lbs. A tip is...use carbon paste on your seat post. It allows the post to stay in place with lower torque. Use a small piece of tape...I use a sliver of electrical tape to mark your seat post just above the clamp. That way you can easily keep track of your saddle height and also determine if it slips over time.
    Other tip I will give you is, if you are serious about your cycling. Keep a journal aka chronical. Doesn't have to be elaborate but observations about your fit and condition. I generally track my fit and overall fitness. Again, short blurbs over time only.
    As little kids, all of us were excited about a new bike. That never changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Campag4life View Post
    I use a torque wrench pretty exclusively on the seat clamp in particular...for both carbon and Ti bikes. 51 in-lbs. A tip is...use carbon paste on your seat post. It allows the post to stay in place with lower torque. Use a small piece of tape...I use a sliver of electrical tape to mark your seat post just above the clamp. That way you can easily keep track of your saddle height and also determine if it slips over time.
    Other tip I will give you is, if you are serious about your cycling. Keep a journal aka chronical. Doesn't have to be elaborate but observations about your fit and condition. I generally track my fit and overall fitness. Again, short blurbs over time only.
    As little kids, all of us were excited about a new bike. That never changes.

    Good tips. And I totally have a spreadsheet set up to document fit, etc.

    As for kids and bikes. My son has a weekly writing assignment. He can write about anything but he has to write a paragraph about something, just to help his writing skills.

    It's pretty serendipitous that he wrote this:

    Bikes and Me
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    Bikes… Are… AWESOME!!! I love them. They are my life. I am going to talk about my experiences with bikes. My first bike was a tiny little peewee size Schwinn and it was yellow. It was pretty cool. I learned how to ride it when I was 4 on training wheels. I kept these until I was good enough to go without them. When I was about 7 or 8 That bike was getting too small, so I started borrowing my neighbors mountain bike, which was too big for him until we could get me my own. I eventually got this Triax kids mountain bike that I later found out was a piece of crap. After 3 months it was impossible to shift gears and the brakes made a whole bunch of noise. We put it to the road when I was 10 and went to REI to get me a new one. We settled on a GT mountain bike. I still have that one and it’s terrific. A little while before the GT, I found out that my friend Wesley had a 1990 Diamond Back BMX bike. I fell in love with it and had wanted it ever since. Then, two weeks ago, my dad agreed to let me have it. I originally was going to have to pay $20, but Kelly, his mom, decided I could have it for free. I have had to do a lot of stuff to it. I gave it a new seat and grips. I also realigned the the handlebars to the wheel. I am also going to paint it. I love it.

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    That is cool. No doubt you revel in the joy your sons feels and you will enjoy riding with him as he grows. I have seen some little kids on road bikes and some are quite good at it at a tender age. Don't think any of us forget our first bike. I sure remember mine. Freedom and speed.

    Since so much has been written about fit in this thread I will share a nuance that may become blatant to you as you play around with adjusting your new bike to dial in your best position.
    - Fit is very subtle. A 3mm change in saddle or handlebar height can spell the difference between comfort and pain.
    Saddle tilt and setback are important.
    Sabby, experiment with shifter position on the handlebars. Best to do this without bar tape.
    Handlebar 'tilt' is very important to hand comfort. I endorse a rotated back position as shown below.
    Saddle height is important.

    Some pics to instill a visual to help you dial your fit...
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    This thread has been a very intereting read. I am considering getting a le champion carbon bike from BD. 5'8".. 30" inseam.. suspect I'll want about a size 53...
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    Quote Originally Posted by robble View Post
    This thread has been a very intereting read. I am considering getting a le champion carbon bike from BD. 5'8".. 30" inseam.. suspect I'll want about a size 53...

    I'm not familiar with the carbon bike but if it has the same geometry as the Ti bike then I recommend going to try the Fuji Altimara to figure out which size is right. But, the carbon might be totally different than the Ti and, if so, then I recommend a similar strategy - find a bike with similar geometry and use it to test fit.

    I'm going to pick up my bike from the UPS distribution center this morning! I'll post photos of the assembly process, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Campag4life View Post
    That is cool. No doubt you revel in the joy your sons feels and you will enjoy riding with him as he grows. I have seen some little kids on road bikes and some are quite good at it at a tender age. Don't think any of us forget our first bike. I sure remember mine. Freedom and speed.

    Since so much has been written about fit in this thread I will share a nuance that may become blatant to you as you play around with adjusting your new bike to dial in your best position.
    - Fit is very subtle. A 3mm change in saddle or handlebar height can spell the difference between comfort and pain.
    Saddle tilt and setback are important.
    Sabby, experiment with shifter position on the handlebars. Best to do this without bar tape.
    Handlebar 'tilt' is very important to hand comfort. I endorse a rotated back position as shown below.
    Saddle height is important.

    Some pics to instill a visual to help you dial your fit...

    I remember mine, too - a blue bike with yellow mag wheels. I can't remember if it was a Schwinn or a Diamondback or what but I rode that thing everywhere! The BMX bike my son talks about is a Diamondback that's blue with blue mag wheels. It reminds me a lot of my old bike.

    He and a buddy have plans to start a bike restoration business (right now, not as their adult vocation). Apparently they found 6 bikes that need new chains, new grips, tires/tubes and some minor service to get them back running. They plan to pool their money to restore them and then sell them and then use the money the make to do more.

    Now, this is not the first time he's come up with a grand idea to make money but this IS the first time he's come up with one I think actually has a market AND he has a semblance of a business plan. *sniff* my little boy is growing up...

    Anyway, as for fit...I do know with my mtb there are two things I need to fix and I'd like to avoid on my Moto. My wrists tend to get numb after a while on a long ride. And then, randomly, the pad of my foot, where it pushes the platform, will burn. It's very strange. Either it's a fit issue or I am developing a neurological problem.

    After my son heads to the bus stop I'm going to pick up my bike!

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    I just wanted to say I will be posting an initial impression ASAP. I just need to get my photos loaded to photobucket off my phone first.

    But, so far so good. The tldr version is "I've had fun riding this super light bike despite a couple hiccups. Also, I need a shorter stem."

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