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Old 05-04-13, 12:32 AM
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Not a fan of the bar clamp. I've got a Ritchey Classic stem on my Marcelo. It's really clean. Is it possible to use a modern 4-bolt bar clamp?

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That is certainly one of the better looking a-heads. No reason why a modern 4-bolt clamp couldn't be used but again, I was trying to achieve a different look. Work or rather design in progress . . .
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You are an outliar of course with your adherence to yester-tech. Yes, I do believe the old stuff was more elegant but the new stuff is so much better functionally and weight wise. To me your allegiance to a lost aesthetic where you morph old quill with new bar diameter is ill founded.. I can see buying or building a classic bicycle...but your convergence of old quill with OS handlebar...and a bull horn at that, seems like a waste.
This is my opinion only of course.
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I agree with C4L. Very nice photography though!
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Have always ridden bull horns, since '75. A personal choice if I am allowed one. Never saw the need for drops and 31.8 seems a more natural, comfortable diameter. Did I inadvertently break some sort of cycle code that you wrote and manage? And the look of a bike or anything else for that matter is important. A lost aesthetic? Might be a nice title for a novel or piece of non-fiction. What is your line of work by the way? Might explain a lot . . .
Isn't the diameter the same where you grip it regardless of the clamp diameter?
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Originally Posted by Ronin01
Have always ridden bull horns, since '75. A personal choice if I am allowed one. Never saw the need for drops and 31.8 seems a more natural, comfortable diameter. Did I inadvertently break some sort of cycle code that you wrote and manage? And the look of a bike or anything else for that matter is important. A lost aesthetic? Might be a nice title for a novel or piece of non-fiction. What is your line of work by the way? Might explain a lot . . .
This is the 41. If you are easily butt-hurt this might not be the place to post new toys and ask for opinions.


He did say it was only his opinion and told you to have fun.
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Originally Posted by canam73
Isn't the diameter the same where you grip it regardless of the clamp diameter?
That's what I think. You would go for the OS diameter to increase stiffness and strength at the clamping area, but not grip characteristics. There are some newer drop bars that extend the OS diameter across the entire tops I think, but I doubt that has trickled down to bull horns yet.

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Seems like the worst of both worlds to me. Not a clean vintage look, and not as light and stiff as a modern stem.
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Originally Posted by kv501
This is the 41. If you are easily butt-hurt this might not be the place to post new toys and ask for opinions.


He did say it was only his opinion and told you to have fun.
Why do people toss that around so often on BF. Do you all need new saddles?
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+ also C4L he summed it up well!
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Originally Posted by Ronin01
Have always ridden bull horns, since '75. A personal choice if I am allowed one. Never saw the need for drops and 31.8 seems a more natural, comfortable diameter. Did I inadvertently break some sort of cycle code that you wrote and manage? And the look of a bike or anything else for that matter is important. A lost aesthetic? Might be a nice title for a novel or piece of non-fiction. What is your line of work by the way? Might explain a lot . . .
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Looks like a junk stem off a 70s department store bike. If you want a thicker grip, put a layer of cloth tape on the bars before your finishing tape. You aren't going to notice a difference in stiffness.
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IMHO, should be lugged.

Kudos for going 1" though. I went 1" threaded with my Roadeo because I like the look, like the ability to change height easily, and have a bunch of stems already.

Is the guy going to make the clamp silver or keep it black? I do not like the black color on the clamp. Other than that, I think if those dimensions fit your build you will have a good stem for the bike.
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Originally Posted by Campag4life
You are an outliar of course with your adherence to yester-tech. Yes, I do believe the old stuff was more elegant but the new stuff is so much better functionally and weight wise. To me your allegiance to a lost aesthetic where you morph old quill with new bar diameter is ill founded.. I can see buying or building a classic bicycle...but your convergence of old quill with OS handlebar...and a bull horn at that, seems like a waste.
This is my opinion only of course.
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You either chase all the kids off the lawn, or you let them all trample it. Oh, and my 66/1A bar and stem combo just threw up...
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You either chase all the kids off the lawn, or you let them all trample it.
I prefer to set up in my attic window with a BB gun and only shoot the fat kids. Cause it's funny.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
Seems like the worst of both worlds to me. Not a clean vintage look, and not as light and stiff as a modern stem.
I would agree with my fellow Merlin rider. This retro stem as pictured looks more like a plumbing clamp than do most any aheadset stems. Both prefer the improvements of headset stem tightening with the threadless modern design but dislike the lack of vertical adjustment, left to spacers or cutting the steering tube.
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Sorry you didn't care for the replies, but That's Life, as Blue Eyes belted out. Pics did manage to bring back ancient times. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by Ronin01
Wow, this Forum is a tough place, too much for my delicate nature. These are prototypes, not perfection, a study. If you don’t like it, fine but no need to try to extrapolate to who and what I am. Ask what my design criteria were and fabrication limits instead making assumptions. And obtuse criticism followed by ‘have fun’ is sarcasm, nothing else.
Hopefully you will all have decades of riding ahead of you and no doubt some will be waxing back on how great A-heads, sloping top tubes and disc brakes are while the industry has moved on. I don’t race so weight is not high on my list priorities. Prefer Benotto tape to padded, old style pursuit to drops due to L2-L5 spinal fusion. So I am caught in the middle, trying to find something that suits my personal preferences and riding style and did not find anything on the market. Made a stab at it.
Wanted 1” quill stem and OS bar, a combination that to my warped thinking is perfectly allowable, even reasonable, and was trying to achieve something akin to Nitto’s Crystem which is forged. But forging one of’s is prohibitively expensive so compromised on method and you see the results. Perhaps I should have tried 3D printing but cutting the forge dies would still be real expensive. First stem was all steel except for the alloy clamp which the fabricator unilaterally anodized black (hence not repeated second time around). Quite heavy as you can imagine and finish bit rough so tried a second one which is all alloy and lighter as result.
Not as successful a stem as I had hoped but glad I made the effort. Not asking you to buy one, just sharing an experience and kinda sorry I did.
OP, do you have said OS bar, not just OS at the clamp, but the OS over the entire length that makes it what you are looking for? I think many of us were commenting that your quest was ill conceived. Having said that, once we don't think it needed to be done, how interested can we be expected to be in the hard slog you have to get there? You arbitrarily decided to depart from your strict adherence to traditional aesthetics (OS bar) in the one way that could only be satisfied by a custom construction while keeping everything else old fashioned. And just to get OS at the clamp since it isn't a real possibility for the full length. Many of us here use cycling as a hobby, but isn't your proposal a tad contrived? We all get wild hairs up our butts, but don't generally expect everyone else to see things the same way. When is enough, too much?
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