Revisionist bike speak
05-07-13, 04:30 PM
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English is a funny language at times . . .
2, two, to and too . . .
2, two, to and too . . .
05-07-13, 05:03 PM
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2. Because road cycling started in Europe with the metric system and MTBs started with 26" tired American bikes.
3. The ultimate in tire size stupidity is that 700c, 622mm, 28", and 29" are all the same size and they are all, wait for it, smaller in diameter than 27" wheels.
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05-07-13, 07:45 PM
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Toeclips are now "cages." Has anyone said that yet?
And trying to denote the size of a vintage Raleigh in centimeters. Yes, I once rode a 59.76 cm Raleigh International.
And trying to denote the size of a vintage Raleigh in centimeters. Yes, I once rode a 59.76 cm Raleigh International.
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05-07-13, 09:15 PM
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I'm OK with using "build" as a verb, but the increasing trend is to use it as a noun, which makes it sound like so much more than what it is, as if you're involved in some super custom high-end project involving true vision and creativity when in reality it's just a bunch of cobbled together mail-order parts that has been done a hundred times before.
05-07-13, 09:38 PM
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I find it astonishing that people get frustrated by the use of plural terms like forks. There are hundreds of situations where our language is like that:- trousers, pants, jeans.........
05-07-13, 09:39 PM
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And, as the folding bike crowd knows, that phrase is already taken (in an application that's probably truer to the other uses of QR on a bike, specifically, as a way to take the pedals off the bike, as opposed to taking one's foot off, or out of, the pedal.)
Below, toe clip quick-release pedal:
Here, clipless quick-release pedals:
Below, toe clip quick-release pedal:
Here, clipless quick-release pedals:
05-07-13, 10:11 PM
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1. They aren't 700mm or 650mm.
2. Because road cycling started in Europe with the metric system and MTBs started with 26" tired American bikes.
3. The ultimate in tire size stupidity is that 700c, 622mm, 28", and 29" are all the same size and they are all, wait for it, smaller in diameter than 27" wheels.
2. Because road cycling started in Europe with the metric system and MTBs started with 26" tired American bikes.
3. The ultimate in tire size stupidity is that 700c, 622mm, 28", and 29" are all the same size and they are all, wait for it, smaller in diameter than 27" wheels.
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05-07-13, 11:03 PM
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There, their, they're...
05-08-13, 01:05 AM
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schwag - because they are stupid and don't understand that "swag" stands for "stuff we all get" as in freebies.
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Swag has always been used, probably for centuries, as a synonym for words like treasure, loot, goodies, a pirate's "booty", people in OZ use it to refer to the stuff a hobo carries around which is from the same origin, i.e. a bunch of goodies, etc. This is a very old word that was adapted to the goodies given away at events.
This "stuff we all get" acronym (which I heard for the first time today, and I've been familiar with the term "swag" since I was a kid, literally (yes literally) decades before I even knew it referred to crap given away at events), is just made up by ignorant people - cyclists and others - who are ignorant that it's a real word that refers to something broader than the crap given out at events.
But germane to the topic:
I hate
groupo (I'll tolerate gruppo, but it is pretentious)
any word with "set" as a suffix
referring to tires as "25c" when it's the 700 that is c (as in 700c wheel size); the 25 is mm and can be the measurement for a tire width that could go on any number of wheel sizes.
Brifter, I absolutely hate brifter and have never heard it used outside of internet forums. Seriously, never.
Clipless pedals - and I've been around long enough to know WHY the term is used - but it's still stupid. People who don't know any terminology refer to them with words like "clip in pedals". that's what I call them when talking to people who don't know what they're called, but know what they are. Call them automatic pedals, clip in pedals, clip pedals, but "clipless" is just the height of stupidity, no matter what the reason.
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05-08-13, 05:16 AM
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You're missing the point. There is no trouser or jean or pant, but there is a single fork as shown in a post somewhere above. The fork (not front fork because there is no back fork) of a bike is singular, but is made up of two tines (in this case called legs). I don't know anyone who is frustrated by trousers or pants or jeans. But forks, meaning one unit on a bike, is wrong.
05-08-13, 07:59 AM
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I'm not sure if I've got your post right but I think you are mistaken. They are 622mm for the 700c size.
05-08-13, 08:06 AM
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no dimension of a 700x23 tire will measure 700mm. The bead seat diameter is 622, the outer tire diameter is going to be less than 680mm.
05-08-13, 08:06 AM
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Oh, and speaking of the b-word, what about barcons?
How does one make the leap from bar-end shifters to "barcons"?
How does one make the leap from bar-end shifters to "barcons"?
05-08-13, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Sheldon Brown
In the French system, the first number is the nominal diameter in mm, followed by a letter code for the width: "A" is narrow, "D" is wide. The letter codes no longer correspond to the tire width, since narrow tires are often made for rim sizes that originally took wide tires; for example, 700 C was originally a wide size, but now is available in very narrow widths, with actual diameters as small as 660 mm.
05-08-13, 10:22 AM
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Doesn't just apply to bikes....but this one transcends virtually every field these days, and seems to indicate that we are on the verge of a new Dark Age:
"I have a bike for sell" or "I want to sale my bike". [Shudder]
"I have a bike for sell" or "I want to sale my bike". [Shudder]
05-08-13, 10:40 AM
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05-08-13, 09:09 PM
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It really confuses me why we all sit on saddles that are held in place by seatposts. Also; seattube.
Would fork ends (track ends) count as rear forks?
I really hate the word fixie... but I suppose it beats referring to fixed-gear single-speed bikes as track bikes.
I've been told that "kit" originated from British military troops being issued a "kit" or ensemble of clothing and gear.
Would fork ends (track ends) count as rear forks?
I really hate the word fixie... but I suppose it beats referring to fixed-gear single-speed bikes as track bikes.
I've been told that "kit" originated from British military troops being issued a "kit" or ensemble of clothing and gear.
05-08-13, 09:10 PM
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You're missing the point. There is no trouser or jean or pant, but there is a single fork as shown in a post somewhere above. The fork (not front fork because there is no back fork) of a bike is singular, but is made up of two tines (in this case called legs). I don't know anyone who is frustrated by trousers or pants or jeans. But forks, meaning one unit on a bike, is wrong.