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Whats the difference? (Road bikes)

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Old 05-18-13, 01:22 PM
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Whats the difference? (Road bikes)

I have two road bikes in my online Basket, not sure which to choose.
One is 190Pounds, the other is 230Pounds. Now, I can't figure out why the other one is 230pounds. The spec for the bike at 190 is:
VIKING SCIROCCO 56CM 2013 | 14 SPEED 700C WHEEL ALLOY GENTS, BLACK/GREEN
Fork: 700c Hi-Tensile with Mudguard Clearance

Gears: Shimano 14 Speed with Shimano SL-A050 Handlebar Mount Control Levers and Shimano Freewheel

Chainset: Prowheel Double Road 42/52t Chainset with a Chainring Chainguard and a Cartridge Bottom Bracket

Wheels: Viking 700c Alloy Double Wall 36 Hole Rims with Quick Release Front Hub

Tyres: 700c x 23c All Black Road Tyres

Brakes: Promax Alloy Side Pull Brakes with Alloy Road Levers

Steering: Promax Road Handlebar with a Promax Alloy A-Head Stem

Saddle: Viking Road Saddle with a Black Micro-Adjust Seat Post.

The spec for the more expensive one is:
VIKING VUELTA STI 53CM 2013 | 14 SPEED 700C WHEEL GENTS, WHITE/BLACK
Specification:

Frame: Lightweight Alloy Road Geometry Gents Frame with Mudguard Clearance and Bottle Bosses

Fork: 700c Hi-Tensile with Mudguard Clearance

Gears: Shimano 14 Speed with Shimano STI Levers and Shimano 7 Speed Freewheel

Chainset: Prowheel Double Road 42/52t Chainset with a Cartridge Bottom Bracket

Wheels: Viking 700c Alloy High Double Wall 36 Hole Rims with KT Quick Release Front Hub

Tyres: 700c x 23c All Black Road Tyres

Brakes: Alloy Side Pull Dual Pivot Brakes with Alloy Road Levers

Steering: Promax Alloy Road Handlebar with a Promax Alloy A-Head Stem and a Low Stack A-Head Headset

Saddle: Viking Road Saddle with an Alloy Micro-Adjust Seat Post

Features: Viking Black Handlebar Tape, Resin Pedals with Toe Clips and Straps.


I need some kinda help!! But explained to me simple as hell? First time even considering a racer! and I know nothing about these bikes. I dont know much about bikes ANYWAYS, however I know NOTHING about road bikes....Help!
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Before you buy anything, you need to ensure you get the right size. One bike is a 56cm size; the other is a 53cm. A 56 typically fits someone 5'10" to 6'0" or so; a 53 is for someone maybe 4" shorter.
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Originally Posted by mrlulz
I need some kinda help!! But explained to me simple as hell? First time even considering a racer! and I know nothing about these bikes. I dont know much about bikes ANYWAYS, however I know NOTHING about road bikes....Help!
You don't even know your frame size -- you have a 53 and a 56 in your cart. I couldn't find a geometry chart to even understand how those relate (frame sizing is not standardized). You know nothing about the bikes and they will need some adjustment once they arrive and over the course of their service life.

You should probably go to a bike shop instead of buying online.
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You are analyzing a difference of 40 pounds (price, right, not weight? ) which is significant in a relative sense, but it must be said, these are extremely inexpensive and basic (euphemism for low end) road bikes. Not sure what you want it for, but these are very economy oriented, extremely heavy and old fashioned in both the frame and the parts. Hi-ten steel is the cheapest type of steel used in bicycles (okay, there may be some exception to this, I don't know). Most quality steel bikes are made from better steel. The drive train parts are several generations behind today's norm. In the US we would call these department store bikes (not a compliment). Such bikes are not being ridden by serious riders. I understand things are different in other places and in countries where cycling is more utilitarian than recreational, such bicycles have a greater appeal. If your interest is fast riding for fitness and/or other athletic purposes, and if you can afford a bit more money, you can do a lot better. If you can't afford more, I think the cheaper of the two makes more sense. The extra 40 pounds isn't buying you much.
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Originally Posted by svtmike
You don't even know your frame size -- you have a 53 and a 56 in your cart. I couldn't find a geometry chart to even understand how those relate (frame sizing is not standardized). You know nothing about the bikes and they will need some adjustment once they arrive and over the course of their service life.

You should probably go to a bike shop instead of buying online.
I know its the 53" one I have shown, but Im after a 56" Medium frame. I just clicked that one for a quick example.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
You are analyzing a difference of 40 pounds (price, right, not weight? ) which is significant in a relative sense, but it must be said, these are extremely inexpensive and basic (euphemism for low end) road bikes. Not sure what you want it for, but these are very economy oriented, extremely heavy and old fashioned in both the frame and the parts. Hi-ten steel is the cheapest type of steel used in bicycles (okay, there may be some exception to this, I don't know). Most quality steel bikes are made from better steel. The drive train parts are several generations behind today's norm. In the US we would call these department store bikes (not a compliment). Such bikes are not being ridden by serious riders. I understand things are different in other places and in countries where cycling is more utilitarian than recreational, such bicycles have a greater appeal. If your interest is fast riding for fitness and/or other athletic purposes, and if you can afford a bit more money, you can do a lot better. If you can't afford more, I think the cheaper of the two makes more sense. The extra 40 pounds isn't buying you much.
Well, I dont have a big budget, I understand what you're saying however, really It's just to get the feel of things, but budget is Stretched at 230 you see. It's just for weekend rides, and not the 50-60mile ones, Im not that fit. My bike history was what ever I can get my hands on. I'm trying to change all that you see. Thank you for your reply!
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Perhaps try the used market. You can get a better bike for less, and you get the chance to ride it before buying.

Between the two you are comparing the major difference is that one is aluminum framed, and the other is steel. With the frame/fork materials and the narrow 23 tires, I think either one of those is going to offer a pretty jarring ride.
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Originally Posted by svtmike
Perhaps try the used market. You can get a better bike for less, and you get the chance to ride it before buying.

Between the two you are comparing the major difference is that one is aluminum framed, and the other is steel. With the frame/fork materials and the narrow 23 tires, I think either one of those is going to offer a pretty jarring ride.
And both have the hi ten steel fork.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
And both have the hi ten steel fork.
Lets say for the sake of wrapping this up, go for non and save up?
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Originally Posted by mrlulz
Lets say for the sake of wrapping this up, go for non and save up?
Works for me.
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Hi,

The basic difference is the way you change gears, the brakes
and the cranks, though hard to tell exact differences.

23mm tyres are useless for a basic road bike
IMO, minimum 28mm for typical british roads.

The handlebars on the more expensive bike just look
awful to me for the integrated brakes and gear levers.

I bought this for £125 :

https://www.tesco.com/direct/vertigo-...x/211-7006.prd

some very nice bits for the money.

Its pretty much the same as the £190 bike but with better sized tyres (28mm).
Removing all the stickers with those stupid curves in them cleans up the lines
a lot. Plan on a new saddle unless you have a adolescent sized arse.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Choose-a-S...item2c689b4b27

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AEST-White...item3381dd02f0

I bought the latter.

Good bike for the money, I spent ~ £75 upgrading it and adding bits.
(saddle, nice tyres, crankset, pedals (toeclips), mudguards, front pads.)

rgds, sreten.

The subtle would remove all stickers except the headtube sticker,
the downtube stickers and the wheel sticker opposite the valve.

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Well, hopefully I have done something a little better this time, I have just bought myself a Btwin Sport 1 Racing Bike for £215.



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