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    I've posted this picture several times in saddlebag threads.



    There's a Park stick-on boot and a couple glueless patches folded up next to one of the tubes. The blue stuff on the tire lever is duct tape.

    Using both tubes in one day is rare but it happens. What happens more often is getting a flat 10 miles into a 120 mile ride and not having a spare for the other 110 miles.

    There's a lot of different opinions on what to carry. I know people that do double centuries with one tube and one cartridge in a pocket. I know others that carry giant expandable saddle bags with everything but the kitchen sink.

    One thing I recommend is carrying light or extra light tubes because they fold up smaller.

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    OP, add a master chain link and a tire boot.

    Five different rides I have had three flats.
    Now carry 5 tubes and a spare tire.

    Got in 502 miles last week.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVT2H...marvelous&lr=1



    Guy on purple bike had EIGHT flats one day.:
    [SIZE=1][B]What I like about Texas[/B]
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    Set F1re To The Ra1n ( NY Night Rain Ride)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christobevii3 View Post
    Usually I bring:
    Topeak 18+ multi tool
    Two tire levers
    Patch kit
    Two tubes
    Two c02 carts
    C02 head
    Two tire boots made from tire that shreaded
    Topeak pump on frame
    That's what I pack and a spare master link and a spoke wrench too (which may be present in your multi tool)

    ovoleg - when word gets out that you're a complete mooch, people are going to stop offering you help.

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    Is the OP an Engineer?

    the more you know the less you need.
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    Nick, I don't necessarily like agreeing with you -- but your spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ovoleg View Post
    this or a bottle storage container. You should not need 2 water bottles if you are riding less than 60 miles. If riding over 60 miles, you will likely stop for water anyways so you can still rock 1 water bottle. If all else fails, the 2nd bottle goes into your jersey.

    1 tube, 2 co2, 2 plastic tire levers, multi-tool.

    If you bring anything else then you're overpacking.



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    I think Cavendish has a guy that follows him around on a scooter with spare wheels etc on training rides. So he doesn't roll with a saddle bag

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    2 tubes for sure. I learned this the hard way when I was 35 miles into a routine 50 mile ride, and failed to spot the tiny 2nd shard of metal in the tire after I pulled the first one out. Knew I was screwed when both tubes wouldn't inflate at all. I had to wait 20 minutes for another rider came and he was not happy that I took his only tube from him. Patch kit or 2nd tube for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shimagnolo View Post
    What I have not seen mentioned:

    - Disposable gloves in latex/vinyl/nitrile, so you can keep the hands clean when doing repairs.
    - Presta-Schrader adapter so you can use a service stations pump if necessary.
    +1 on the gloves (and a couple of paper towels in a zip loc bag).

    I carry:
    2 tubes plus a patch kit.
    2 spare CO2 cylinders plus one in the inflator.
    boot
    Quick stick
    VAR tire jack (only way I can get my 650c Conti GP4000 on the rims)
    Tire levers (probably should take them out since with the previous two items I don't need the levers)
    chain tool (I usually am riding the fixed gear, so I don't use a quick link)
    Mini tool (can't remember the brand off hand)
    Park 4/5/6 ball hex wrench
    8mm hex wrench (PW fixed gear hybs = no QR skewers)
    Emergency cash ($20 - just in case I forgot my wallet/id)

    This is in addition to a cliff bar and mini wallet (DL, credit card, insurance card) and cleat covers (Speedplays) in the jersey pocket, Road ID around the neck, and a minipump on the seat tube bottle cage.

    I probably overpack, but I'm not a weight weenie, and I like to have backups (hence the pump and CO2).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ovoleg View Post
    I bring 2 co2's just incase i am a m0ran and screw up the first one. Pretty sure I'm going to start carrying only 1 co2.

    The one time I got another flat after I screwed the pooch on the 1st tube, I just waited on the road until another cyclist rode by so I could ask for his help. Man up and ask for help, dont carry extra equipment cause you think you're a superhero. Most of the time I'm fixing my flats and like 5+ ppl will come by and ask me if I need help. Even while MTB'ing.

    You can also ask drivers for help, I've asked a few for water once.
    I very rarely see other cyclists on my rides and when I ride with friends, they typically have no spare tires, pumps, cartridges/inflators or tubes. I could call a cab if I needed to, but I think it's a lot more fun to be able to finish my ride than to have to call for help for every little defect because I had to look cool. I also find it funny that you think a bottle in jersey pocket looks better than a saddle bag on the bike.

    Anyway, I carry tire levers, a spare tube, mini patch kit, multi tool with chain breaker, a quick link, a spoke wrench and a presta to schrader adapter in the saddle bag. I also have a mini pump on the frame. I could have all this in my pockets, but I prefer to have it on the bike and not have to think about it. I might add a derailleur cable too; it takes very little space and once it's in the bag I no longer have to think about it until I happen to need it.

    Oh, and "You should not need 2 water bottles if you are riding less than 60 miles." - so, you never ride if it's above 23 C/75 F? Or is it just not cool/manly to drink enough during a ride?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiery View Post
    Oh, and "You should not need 2 water bottles if you are riding less than 60 miles." - so, you never ride if it's above 23 C/75 F? Or is it just not cool/manly to drink enough during a ride?
    I had missed that. That's funny. I once finished off (2) 1L bottles in 15 miles when riding hilly (up to 12%) terrain at 100F.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodgson View Post
    I just recently got my first bike, and now I want to put together an emergency kit before I go on any long rides. What do you guys generally carry with you? I obviously want to carry as little as possible, but I also want to be prepared. Here's what I've come up with so far:

    pump (strapped to downtube)
    multi tool (possibly this + additional tire levers)
    2 spare tubes
    patch kit
    (cell phone, ID, etc.)
    in this (small?) saddle bag
    What am I missing, or where could I do better?
    There are a couple of other brands of seat bags that have a bit more room in them, but I have some of the same as yours in use without issue. I carry only 1 spare tube and do carry an air head and two nitrogen catridges. I still carry a mini-pump on the back of the seatube up near the top (under the seat stays). I don't carry tire irons anymore, choosing instead to run tires I can change natively.

    I put the IDs, wallet, and cell up front in a mini-saddler as in here; http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 This saddle bag is really cheap, but well made and a Samsung Note 2 Fablet (really awesome and thin but rather large screened) fits nicely in one of the side bags. For those chronically needing to be connected, a 6,000 mAmp hr backup battery ($15 delivered from 1-Sale-a-Day site fits nicely in the other side, etc. That second side could also be reserved for a few granola bars and a few days of any critical perscriptions, etc.

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    Wow, lots of folks seem to be having lots of flats necessitating lots of tubes and fixes!

    Are folks riding too small or too light of tires? Or not keeping pressure up?

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    See Rules 29,30, and 31

    One tube carried up under seat between the rails
    Two C02 cartridges held on one of these
    Shiny object inflator and one tire lever in jersey

    But, this is for group rides so I've got backup should I double flat. I've had it happen once in 3 years and ~6,000 miles. I always carry spare tubes in my car to pay back a friend should the need arise.

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    I'm not saying not to carry the proper equipment, but 2 tubes is definitely overpacking. Count back to how many times you had 2 flats in 1 ride and you were alone and couldn't find any help(road).

    Part of not getting flats isn't just getting good tires, it's avoiding debris. When I first started riding, I rode over all sorts of things that caused flats, later, after I gained more confidence, I rode more to the center of the lane and away from debris. I do not flat as often anymore.

    2 water bottles is subjective, but I usually just drink heavy before the ride and then drink 1 water bottle while refilling it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ovoleg View Post
    I'm not saying not to carry the proper equipment, but 2 tubes is definitely overpacking. Count back to how many times you had 2 flats in 1 ride and you were alone and couldn't find any help(road).

    Part of not getting flats isn't just getting good tires, it's avoiding debris. When I first started riding, I rode over all sorts of things that caused flats, later, after I gained more confidence, I rode more to the center of the lane and away from debris. I do not flat as often anymore.

    2 water bottles is subjective, but I usually just drink heavy before the ride and then drink 1 water bottle while refilling it.
    I had 2 blowouts 2 weeks ago, and a third when I got home. Crappy batch of tubes. Does not happen often, but it does - put me in a much worse mood than having a "fred" bag and being able to finish the ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrankAndYank View Post
    Saddle bags are for Freds.

    1 tube, 2 CO2, 1 Microflate, 2 irons, phone. All in a jersey pocket where it belongs.
    Incorrect.

    Please ignore plebeian advice. They have no ****ing clue.
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    1. One tube
    2. Patch kit
    3. Tire levers
    4. Tire boot
    5. Min tool which includes spoke wrench
    6. Spare quick link
    7. Two spare nipples
    8. Cash
    9. Coin for a pay phone
    10. My left nut for luck

    Anything else is not a roadside repair and either should have been avoided with regular inspection or was just **** bad luck and you need to deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksisler View Post
    Wow, lots of folks seem to be having lots of flats necessitating lots of tubes and fixes!
    No kidding! Do you all ride ultralight tubes? I put quite a few miles on regular weight tubes without all of the problems I'm reading about on the 41. Sure I get the occasional flat, especially during Goathead season. But wow!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina View Post
    1. One tube
    2. Patch kit
    3. Tire levers
    4. Tire boot
    5. Min tool which includes spoke wrench
    6. Spare quick link
    7. Two spare nipples
    8. Cash
    9. Coin for a pay phone
    10. My left nut for luck

    Anything else is not a roadside repair and either should have been avoided with regular inspection or was just **** bad luck and you need to deal with it.
    That's quite the laundry list. I'll have to start including number 10!
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    I have, up until the VERY recent past (about a week ago), carried nothing. my old tiny seat bag had enough room for my wallet, cell phone and keys, though just barely. that is not longer the case, I'm slowly assembling some spares/stuff for a new slightly larger wedge pack. it will contain the following for my average rides (20ish miles or less, longer rides might have additional/different gear):

    1 Tube (in hand)
    1 Tire
    1 multi-tool with chain breaker
    tire levers (in hand)
    co2 inflator w/ cartridges
    couple spare quick links (due here tomorrow)
    latex gloves (in hand)
    clif bar or some kind of food that won't melt (in hand)

    and of course my cellphone/wallet/keys

    sure it adds a little weight, and of course it will hurt my "style points" (sic), but it only takes being stranded once to fix that problem. especially when you sag wagon (the wife) is not in a place to come get you because of her commitments to the kids getting home from school, had I waited I would have been waiting for about 1.5hrs or more. never again. I'd rather be a Fred in the eyes of some than looking cool for the beautiful people and stranded on the road cuz I took style over preparedness.
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    Pump (on frame)
    1-2 tubes, depending on length of ride
    Patch kit
    Tire levers
    Multitool

    AND

    My secret weapon of awesomeness:

    *Tweezers*

    They have several times made extracting a very sharp, tiny, vicious sliver of glass or metal from my tire a quick and painless thing. Used them just this Sunday, and blew the mind of the guy I was riding with. (Of course, that could just mean that he needs to get out more, but whatever.)

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    Yep. 1 tube, 1 lever, and a couple of stick-on patches in the rare event of a second flat. Minipump, minitool, cell, ID, cash. To find a leak, keep pumping the tube until the leak becomes obvious. For pinholes, the tube might get 2, 3 or more times its normal diameter and a lot longer. Of course even if just replacing the tube, you need to inspect the tire to ensure whatever caused the flat isn't still embedded in it. Sometimes finding the leak in the tube helps accomplish this (or finding the object helps finding the leak in the tube), which are reasons to align the tire label with the valve stem when installing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ovoleg View Post
    is this real life? are you packing for a 5 day trip across the Sierras?
    I have a spare link too. No it isn't for going across the Sierras, but I also moved somewhere recently and only know a few people. Being stuck 50 miles out on a 100 mile ride in south Louisiana where people hate bikers and it is humid with a million bugs and alligators sounds terrible. Biking isn't a regular thing like you would have in California or Colorado, plus the road quality is lacking.

    I don't like walking in my nice shoes and what is an extra pound or two going to hurt when I'm not racing. A few minutes lost due to weight vs walking 20 miles, i'll take the weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karenashg View Post
    Pump (on frame)
    My secret weapon of awesomeness:

    *Tweezers*
    *takes note*

    *adds to list*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slackerprince View Post
    Have to agree on the patch kit.
    How are you going to find the hole without a tub of water?


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    if I use a pump, I just pump it up a bit and can either hear it or feel it every time. not sure how it would work on co2 guess you cant get it in that small an amount?
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