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Old 06-10-13, 04:33 AM   #1
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Cheap tyres - any good?

Found some cheap (some discount) tyres, but not sure if they're any good. It is for my fair weather, road bike that is used for both joyrides, training and commuting (no racing). Will go for 25mm, or even 28. Are these any good, which are the best bang for the buck in your oppinion?

My priorities are: speed, grip, comfort, then durability (especially at these prices). But they should be able to handle some debris, so no super-soft racing tyres. These all seem to be marked as "training", so guess they're OK?


1) Continental Ultra Sport Wired Tire 10 euros
http://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=...gc=0;orderby=2

2) Michelin Dynamic Sport Wired Tire 14 euros
http://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=...gc=0;orderby=2

3) Continental SuperSport Plus Wired Tire 20 euros
http://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=...gc=0;orderby=2


4) Continental Grand Prix Wired Tire 20 euros
http://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=...gc=0;orderby=2

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Old 06-10-13, 04:41 AM   #2
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The Ultremos are probably the lightest, quickest, smoothest and most grippy tyre out of that lot, but they're lightweight race tyres, low on durability and susceptible to cuts. Might still be worth a punt at that price if you're sure you've got clearance for 28s.
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My bad - those are racing tyres. Ok, they're out. :/

I do have room for 28s, it's not a racing frame, so eyelets for rear rack, room for fenders and fattrer tyres, medium reach brakes. Still not 100% sure whether to go with 28s or 25s, but 23 I now have are definitely too thin, too hard for bad pavement I often ride on. Specialized all weather elites.
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These are probably the best deal in a economical tyre: http://www.probikekit.com/bicycle-ty.../10780125.html

I would certainly pay the extra over the wire beaded ones in your original post.
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Life is too short to ride crappy tires
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I like the Rubino Pro's, which can be had for $24, the lithions are a good choice too, much better than the dynamic sports (which are low TPI, with a harsh quality..but tough as a result).
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I have tried all of them on your list.

The Continental Ultra Sport Wired Tire has the best ride, but will flat easy.

It is my choice to use.

Buy 6 or 8 of them and enjoy your rides.
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This.

Find savings elsewhere. Tires, tights, and helmets are not them.
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Find savings elsewhere. Tires, tights, and helmets are not them.
Does make sense.

Recommendations? Comfy, 25 (or 28) mm tyre, with decent grip, fast rolling, but doesn't get torn with debris too easily?
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Does make sense.

Recommendations? Comfy, 25 (or 28) mm tyre, with decent grip, fast rolling, but doesn't get torn with debris too easily?
schwalbe ultremo zx. wait for the sales on at pbk, and other fine european retailers. I bought six last year for $32 each.
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schwalbe ultremo zx. wait for the sales on at pbk, and other fine european retailers. I bought six last year for $32 each.
Thanks for advice. Are they easily cut by small rocks on pavement - road debris etc? I now ride Specialized All Condition Elite. They are very durable, but also very rough ride. Compared to those? :/
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Thanks for advice. Are they easily cut by small rocks on pavement - road debris etc? I now ride Specialized All Condition Elite. They are very durable, but also very rough ride. Compared to those? :/
Trust me, the Ultremos cut up easily.
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Trust me, the Ultremos cut up easily.
Hmm. That would make them not good for the roads I ride. Any tougher suggestions?
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Find savings elsewhere. Tires, tights, and helmets are not them.

I used to be that way. but i was burning through too many sets of GP4k's every year...tires that unless i shipped them from PBK cost more than the tires on my car. I bought some cheap lithions at performance when they had a sale...$20. bought 10. consumption rate is the same as the GP4ks. This is for everyday use. I run these on my 5 year old Reynolds Assaults (previously racing wheels, now everyday wheels) which after all those miles, potholes and 3 crashes are perfectly fine.

For my racing tubulars I run continental competitions.

So for me - everyday tires - cheap
racing tires - expensive
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I have been riding on Vittoria Rally tubulars for years. At $ 25.00 - $30.00 each they are a great tire. I used to ride Corsa Extras but they got obscenely expensive and were definitely not twice as good as the Rallys. Maybe when I win the lottery.....
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Trust me, the Ultremos cut up easily.
I ride them on dirt and gravel. They're fine.
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Of the tires you selected the Grand Prix are the nicest and the best bang for the buck.
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Hi,

Go 28's and for commuting the best puncture protection,
which in your list is the Conti SuperSport.

The best value seem the Ultra Sport, but not when
the shipping will cost as much as the tyres.

Better to spend 50% more on the twice as expensive tyres.

rgds, sreten.

The correct type of tyre from a decent company, at a very
good discount, will be better than any normally priced tyre.
How I buy mine. Schwalbe 30mm rear, Michelin 32mm front.

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About Schwalbe Ultremos ZX - they seem like the best offer (20 euros for folders). Schwalbe site says they have a decent flat protection, shouldn't be easily cut. Some folks sey they cut, some say they don't.

I'm seriously considering giving those schwalbes a try.

28mm tyre on a 13.5 mm rim is not a problem? Mavic CXP22, they say from 19 to 28 - although schwalbe site suggests at least 15mm rim for a 28 mm tyre.
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http://www.performancebike.com/bikes...400235__400235

Zero brand bling, but these are the best tires for the money I've seen. Very durable, smooth rolling and tons of grip in both wet and dry.
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Found some cheap (some discount) tyres, but not sure if they're any good. It is for my fair weather, road bike that is used for both joyrides, training and commuting (no racing). Will go for 25mm, or even 28. Are these any good, which are the best bang for the buck in your oppinion?

My priorities are: speed, grip, comfort, then durability (especially at these prices). But they should be able to handle some debris, so no super-soft racing tyres. These all seem to be marked as "training", so guess they're OK?


2) Michelin Dynamic Sport Wired Tire 14 euros
http://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=...gc=0;orderby=2
I have these mounted on one of my bikes and like them for what they are. Slick yet grippy, not a whole lot of puncture protection, but hey, it's a slick. Wears evenly and not too quickly. Recommend.
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About Schwalbe Ultremos ZX - they seem like the best offer (20 euros for folders). Schwalbe site says they have a decent flat protection, shouldn't be easily cut. Some folks sey they cut, some say they don't.

I'm seriously considering giving those schwalbes a try.
Hi,

Its a lightweight competition tyre. No matter how well its made, it
won't last very long, it will be relatively delicate and puncture prone.

Nice tyres though for a weekend burn up. Not a commuting tyre.

What is your not fair weather bike ? suitable for commuting ?

rgds, sreten.

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I ride them on dirt and gravel. They're fine.
I ride them on roads and they cut. Not that I find it a major hassle as I will put a boot in a cut if there's a bulge and continue to ride the tyre. I just booted a small cut in my front tyre tread surface this morning where I could see the latex inner tube poking through. The same front tyre already had a boot in the sidewall. The rear tyre is showing a few gouges in the tread surface too. These tyres were new in March and they're near ready for binning after less than 1400 miles. I have a few old pairs lying around and I've had to boot nicks and cuts in them too. I've never gotten more than 1500 miles out of a set. By contrast, I've done 4500 miles on the GP4000s on my winter bike and they're still in great shape. Nothing beats the Ultremo for weight, ride and grip, but they sure don't last.
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The cheap tires are fine for most users.

I rocked the Conti Ultrasports for a whole year on a Cervelo bike. They held up every bit as well as the much pricer GP4000s. (Ultrasports are sold at the LBS for $19 each compared to $50-60 for GP4000s typically.)

The biggest issue that these cheaper tires have, is that they're much heavier than the racing tires. I did notice the added weight when I made the switch. I wasn't riding any slower in terms of average speed, but the accelerations did feel more sluggish at first. However, you don't notice it anymore after 15 minutes of riding.I wouldn't race with these, but I'd be 100% ok doing serious training with them.

My Gatorskins still feel clunkier in every way than the Ultrasports. But my racing tires (GP4000 or Rubinos) feel noticeably livelier and easier to corner. As said, I had zero lifespan issues with the Ultrasports, and I rode a lot on the PCH, and was comparing to GP4000s or gatorskins. (GP4000s were pretty unimpressive with cut resistance in my hands, actually.)
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