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    No idea. I prefer to ride solo. Partly to get away from idle chit chat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big chainring View Post
    I've been seeing this more and more whilst driving my car. In traffic, during rush hour, a couple of dweebs have to ride side by side chit catting away making a nuisance out of themselves and blocking the road. Single file! Come on. Don't be hogging the road and pissing off drivers.
    Some people have actual social lives outside of Facebook and that internet persona does not transfer well out here. Relax and practice your real people skills... LOL!
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    Persons riding two abreast, as provided in this subsection, shall not impede the normal and
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    Around here we have long boarders who ride all across the lane for miles down hill. Talk about p/o'ing the drivers!
    As for me, I'm on the common sense and courtesy side. I expect slow farm traffic, long boarders, pedestrians and bikers to be reasonable about their co-use of the road with cars, semis and others. That means not unduly obstructing faster traffic and allowing faster traffic to pass if it is safe to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tagaproject6 View Post
    Some people have actual social lives outside of Facebook and that internet persona does not transfer well out here. Relax and practice your real people skills... LOL!
    Huh ?
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    Those two-abreast chit-chatters should keep it on the MUP, along with the comfort-bike-riding soccer moms, unleashed dogs and children, ear-bud-wearing joggers, well-armed muggers, bat-wielding psychopaths, and over various hyphenated freaks that the MUP was designed for!

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    Quote Originally Posted by halfspeed View Post
    What's with all the cars on my roads? I find it inconvenient at times so they should be banned while I'm on my bike.
    +1

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    From the cyclists viewpoint...

    Some local roads are two lanes in each direction. A row of cyclists riding courteously single file in the right lane makes drivers feel like they are capable of squeezing by in the right lane, getting incredibly close to the cyclists. If we ride double file, we essentially take the lane, requiring cars to pass in the left lane, where they should be passing us anyways, not inches from us in the right lane.

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    I do it all the time. Drivers can get stuffed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ovoleg View Post
    OP is a typical fata$$ that is late to his McDonalds appointment.


    nailed it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homebrew01 View Post
    2 abreast on quiet roads.
    Single file in traffic.

    We are lucky to be able to ride for hours with just a handful of cars and no traffic lights.
    Where? Please tell me. I am dying on 106, 123 and their ilk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homebrew01 View Post
    In CT
    Persons riding two abreast, as provided in this subsection, shall not impede the normal and
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    Whoever made that prediction doesn't seem to have a very good track record. You should probably ignore them.
    Don't believe everything you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commodus View Post
    I do it all the time. Drivers can get stuffed.
    this

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    Drives me crazy on the bike path when oncoming riders do this and start drifting into my lane because they're looking at the other person...It's usually the beach cruiser / hybrid crowd that are the worst offenders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commodus View Post
    I do it all the time. Drivers can get stuffed.
    Should we start painting a bike white for you now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by island rider View Post
    Where? Please tell me. I am dying on 106, 123 and their ilk.
    I go up north: Bridgewater, Washington Depot, Kent.
    But I do find decent roads from Bethel/Newtown south to Westport/Fairfield ..... I don't know your area that well .... too far south for me.

    I think there's some hammerhead ride in Greenwich on Wednesdays ??
    And TargetTraining has a ride somewhere.
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    on my commute I mostly ride single file, weekend rides are early morning on unpopulated roads, over 25mi I ~might~ see a dozen cars. if we feel like chit-chat while riding we'll ride 2 abreast. for me its all about safety, if i'm in a safe environment for chitchat i'll do it, if not I won't. really that simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big chainring View Post
    Should we start painting a bike white for you now?


    there's nothing funnier than a driver's revenge fantasy. there's just something hilarious about the combination of ignorance and impotence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homebrew01 View Post
    In CT
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    This is true for most states (if not all of them).

    If there is a lot of traffic, you are effectively not allowed to ride abreast. If the traffic is low, you are allowed a reasonable amount of time to move to riding single file to the right (you are not required to instantly get out of the way of other vehicles).

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorer75 View Post
    From the cyclists viewpoint...

    Some local roads are two lanes in each direction. A row of cyclists riding courteously single file in the right lane makes drivers feel like they are capable of squeezing by in the right lane, getting incredibly close to the cyclists. If we ride double file, we essentially take the lane, requiring cars to pass in the left lane, where they should be passing us anyways, not inches from us in the right lane.
    If there are two same-direction lanes, the existance of the other lane means that traffic isn't (technically/strictly) being impeded (since they have the other lane for travel). That is, you are legally allowed (generally) to take the right lane (as far as I can tell by reading the law).
    Last edited by njkayaker; 06-14-13 at 01:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topflightpro View Post
    I think the OP has a bit of a point. In high traffic areas and times, it really makes sense for a group of two to ride single file. Not doing so serves only to irritate drivers, many of whom don't like cyclists to begin with.

    Road etiquette is a give and take, and it is incumbent upon us to offer drivers the same respect we expect from them.

    At the same time, in low traffic areas and times, or as mentioned in large groups, riding two abreast is perfectly reasonable.

    I will add that in my state, there is no law requiring bicyclists to ride single file, but there also is no law allowing the to ride wider than single file.
    Yes, but inviting a car to pass you in your lane is very risky. As I said above when I ride single file , it is virty the asame as two abreast. I take enough of the lane to discourage cars passing in my lane. If i see a car wanti g to pass me, I do pull to the right, but on my terms where the shoulder or gutter is clean and secure. It would be similar to be riding two abreast and then to change to single file when the need arises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
    Whoever made that prediction doesn't seem to have a very good track record. You should probably ignore them.
    That is not a prediction, my friend, it is the instructuon of the law. Shall not means you aren't supposed to do it, not tha you don't think it will happen naturally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorer75 View Post
    From the cyclists viewpoint...

    Some local roads are two lanes in each direction. A row of cyclists riding courteously single file in the right lane makes drivers feel like they are capable of squeezing by in the right lane, getting incredibly close to the cyclists. If we ride double file, we essentially take the lane, requiring cars to pass in the left lane, where they should be passing us anyways, not inches from us in the right lane.
    Essackly! That is what I also believe about not allowing cars to pass in the lane without controlling the situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorer75 View Post
    From the cyclists viewpoint...

    Some local roads are two lanes in each direction. A row of cyclists riding courteously single file in the right lane makes drivers feel like they are capable of squeezing by in the right lane, getting incredibly close to the cyclists. If we ride double file, we essentially take the lane, requiring cars to pass in the left lane, where they should be passing us anyways, not inches from us in the right lane.
    I regularly ride roads with at least two lanes each direction and every time there are drivers that choose to squeeze by in my lane rather than move to the next lane over when there are no other vehicles on the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YOJiMBO20 View Post
    I regularly ride roads with at least two lanes each direction and every time there are drivers that choose to squeeze by in my lane rather than move to the next lane over when there are no other vehicles on the road.

    I hate stupid people.
    You must occupy around half the lane. I like to ride berween 40 and 60% of the lane width from the shoulder or curb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorer75 View Post
    If we ride double file, we essentially take the lane, requiring cars to pass in the left lane, where they should be passing us anyways, not inches from us in the right lane.
    I actively encourage drivers to pass me in the right lane by waving them through with a circular motion.

    Cars passing close are not a problem. Clueless drivers are the most dangerous followed by aggressive ones. If you're plugging up the road, you inevitably provoke the loons even if you are in the right.

    The people that are watching out for you are not going to hit you -- especially if you invite them to squeeze you. And you don't have to have them blow by at highway speeds either. Just drift left to slow things down and as they catch you, move right and wave them through. They get where they're going, you get where you're going, and everyone stays calm.

    The issue I often encounter is that many cars refuse to pass even with the wave through. I really wish they would pass. Keeps everything running smoother.

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