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    Quote Originally Posted by banerjek View Post
    I actively encourage drivers to pass me in the right lane by waving them through with a circular motion.

    Cars passing close are not a problem. Clueless drivers are the most dangerous followed by aggressive ones. If you're plugging up the road, you inevitably provoke the loons even if you are in the right.

    The people that are watching out for you are not going to hit you -- especially if you invite them to squeeze you. And you don't have to have them blow by at highway speeds either. Just drift left to slow things down and as they catch you, move right and wave them through. They get where they're going, you get where you're going, and everyone stays calm.

    The issue I often encounter is that many cars refuse to pass even with the wave through. I really wish they would pass. Keeps everything running smoother.
    God, how true this is. As much as I hate getting buzzed, the clueless guy who is way to timid annoys me just as much. They are just as dangerous, especially considering what you said, when you get the combination of clueless followed by Aggro Guy. In fact, there was just a fatal accident in my neck of the woods in which, from what I read, one car who didn't pass two cyclists was passed by an impatient driver (shocker, kid was like 18). Impatient guy crossed double yellow, then almost gets head on'd by a car coming the other way, so he swerves back into the proper lane, but right into the bicyclists, killing one of them. This is why I hate it when I get tailgated by the overly cautious driver. Keep it moving people. Dont' buzz me, but keep it moving, safely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
    In Florida, it's legal to ride two abreast, unless it impedes traffic.

    And for a large group on many roads, two abreast is less of an impediment to traffic, than a single line that is really long.

    So it becomes a situational thing, sometimes two abreast is actually better.
    Fl. statues regarding this topic, #5 & #6.....http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/...0316.2065.html

    I've read that in North Port, Fl.-riding 2 abreast is not allowed at all because of a local city law.

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    There are some communities that have banned bikes entirely.
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    Seems the OP is a cyclist when riding, and a driver when driving. I'm a cyclist at all times.

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    I like to chit chat with drivers when they have their front passenger side window down. Then the backed up traffic can blame the car and not me.

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    Man eff all this single file and two-abreast riding.

    Ride like this!
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    Two men with shaved legs wearing tight clothes. They're discussing where their relationship is going.
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    Legal or not, it's d*****y.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rbart4506 View Post
    Take a deep breath and relax....

    Much more important things in the world to worry about
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimF22003 View Post
    Legal or not, it's d*****y.
    If there is more than one travel lane on each side of the road, then no, it's not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimF22003 View Post
    Legal or not, it's d*****y.
    I agree. It is the same as a driver hanging out in the left lane on a freeway holding people up who want to go faster. Yeah, it is legal, but just get out of the way, for crying out loud. Not everyone is on your schedule.
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    its part of the social, and communal part of cycling. my favourite training days were long 5 hr days chitchatting with teammates. see a good early season training ride, every one is riding two abreast, at the end of their turn, they pull off on their respective sides and drift to the back. conversations all up and down the line. the time goes by easily.
    By the time you're experienced enough to get something germane out of a test ride, you won't need a test ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdedes View Post
    its part of the social, and communal part of cycling. my favourite training days were long 5 hr days chitchatting with teammates. see a good early season training ride, every one is riding two abreast, at the end of their turn, they pull off on their respective sides and drift to the back. conversations all up and down the line. the time goes by easily.
    +1

    Just spent 2 out of the 3 hours today two abreast talking. You have to know the person beside you to trust them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyReverb View Post
    I agree. It is the same as a driver hanging out in the left lane on a freeway holding people up who want to go faster. Yeah, it is legal, but just get out of the way, for crying out loud. Not everyone is on your schedule.
    It's not the same if there is more than one travel lane. On the freeway you want the slower car to stay to the right so you can pass on the left. So if riders are riding two abreast in the right lane and you're free to pass in the left lane, where is the problem?
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    In Florida it's legal to ride abreast. Also if there is no designated bike lane, a bicycle should at least 2 feet off the yellow line (state supplied bicycle safety guide)...it prevents idiots in cars from trying to bully us off the road, which happens quite often in my area.

    That said, it's not really very safe to ride abreast, as gives the outside rider no escape in a lot of cases...especially in town. Keep safety in mind, and make your decisions based on environmental, road, and weather conditions.

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    What's with the two abreast chit chat?

    Just be aware that at rush hour in traffic a lot of drivers just want to get home. Cyclists riding side by side and making passing difficult is just aggravating their already aggravated state. Ride safe and single file in heavy traffic.

    Its getting very testy in the Chicago area. Lots of cyclists out on the road in the summer months. I hear a lot of negative remarks from my noncycling friends about how they dislike cyclists, particularly the euro- kitted type.

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    My favorite thing in the world is when I am descending one lane hills (At a decent clip mind you) and a driver tries to pull around into the oncoming traffic lane, I speed up. There have been some pretty close calls, I am waiting for the first head-on collision.

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    Yeah I was doing the speed limit - 25 MPH on a 2-lane road the other day, and of course a driver just HAD to *** the engine and do at least 40 to get around me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnuzzomueller View Post
    My favorite thing in the world is when I am descending one lane hills (At a decent clip mind you) and a driver tries to pull around into the oncoming traffic lane, I speed up. There have been some pretty close calls, I am waiting for the first head-on collision.
    Trying for a Darwin award are you.

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    Yeah keep riding two abreast in situations where you could be more considerate. No doubt you also won't get upset when motorists aren't considerate to you. Expect more aggression, but always assert your rights on the road. Next time that Kenworth is behind you, you just stay right out there chatting. Always expect the driver behind you to be rational and to be aware of the road rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 009jim View Post
    Yeah keep riding two abreast in situations where you could be more considerate. No doubt you also won't get upset when motorists aren't considerate to you. Expect more aggression, but always assert your rights on the road. Next time that Kenworth is behind you, you just stay right out there chatting. Always expect the driver behind you to be rational and to be aware of the road rules.
    Ironically, semi drivers are usually some of the BEST drivers on the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big chainring View Post
    Just be aware that at rush hour in traffic a lot of drivers just want to get home. Cyclists riding side by side and making passing difficult is just aggravating their already aggravated state. Ride safe and single file in heavy traffic.

    Its getting very testy in the Chicago area. Lots of cyclists out on the road in the summer months. I hear a lot of negative remarks from my noncycling friends about how they dislike cyclists, particularly the euro- kitted type.
    Civilization is a thin veneer over our simian nature. We're agitated by monkeys from a different troop. We don't understand and resent their behavior. Give your friends a bit of a push and they'll start flinging poop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia View Post
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    Some guys talk the whole time they're out riding. They never shut up and just listen to the sound of the road once in a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Y. View Post
    Some guys talk the whole time they're out riding. They never shut up and just listen to the sound of the road once in a while.
    Up the pace, that always shuts them up.

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