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    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
    Dude, the question wasn't how you avoid bathroom breaks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elcruxio View Post
    Yeees.... how does that have anything to do with clipless?

    It depends what clipless pedals you are using. My friend hit a football sized pinecone during a sprint, and because he was using speedplays (harder than most pedals to clip in/out), he flipped over on his back still attached to his bike. I however atm, use m520s, a friend on my left side made a right turn into me; I some how clipped out of my pedals and landed on my feet.

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    Pretty funny. I remember very clearly getting my first bike with rat-traps and toe clips, 50 years ago. I was immediately turbine-powered, or so it felt. Only thing was that my feet got cold and the straps cut off circulation. I had to have them tight because I didn't have cycling shoes with sole plates. Clipless are better yet. Super funny not to have an Allen wrench to adjust your pedals. You get tired because of a lack of conditioning. It ain't the pedals!

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    Let's save ourselves some posts and just skip ahead to the part where clipless pedals can cause death.
    Cyclists of the world, unite! You have nothing to lube but your chains!

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    Clipless helps you put your race face on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GT4 View Post
    It depends what clipless pedals you are using. My friend hit a football sized pinecone during a sprint, and because he was using speedplays (harder than most pedals to clip in/out), he flipped over on his back still attached to his bike. I however atm, use m520s, a friend on my left side made a right turn into me; I some how clipped out of my pedals and landed on my feet.
    I would say "... because he wasn't looking where he was going, he flipped over on his back ..."
    Don't believe everything you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
    Dude, the question wasn't how you avoid bathroom breaks.
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    There's no such thing as too far.. just lack of time
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    Quote Originally Posted by thump55 View Post
    I would say you are full of crap. Clipless is better. There is no if, and, or buts.
    You summed it up completely,well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillcrawler View Post
    I've been thinking about this while i was riding today. I have a hybrid bike with flat pedals and road bike clipless. As you know, you are applying maybe 4 different types of force with clipless pedals. Pressing, lifting, pushing (forward) and pulling (back). Well but in the same time you are wasting, let's say consuming more energy for your extra efforts. In the end you are getting exhausted quicker. Maybe it sounds bullish but i gave a thought about it. What would you say?
    I would say you're a confused little monkey.
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    The nazis didn't ride clipless.....think about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MRT2 View Post
    50 meters? At what speed?
    500m/s
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    Quote Originally Posted by hillcrawler View Post
    What would you say?
    I think that you and the 'Mechanical Nightmare,' guy should collaborate on a few threads.
    Quote Originally Posted by RollCNY View Post
    I would wager that not riding in Minnesota is just as fatiguing as not riding in New York.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillcrawler View Post
    I've been thinking about this while i was riding today. I have a hybrid bike with flat pedals and road bike clipless. As you know, you are applying maybe 4 different types of force with clipless pedals. Pressing, lifting, pushing (forward) and pulling (back). Well but in the same time you are wasting, let's say consuming more energy for your extra efforts. In the end you are getting exhausted quicker. Maybe it sounds bullish but i gave a thought about it. What would you say?
    not sure if serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
    I would say "... because he wasn't looking where he was going, he flipped over on his back ..."
    I wanted to emphasize that he flipped on his bike still attached to his bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro Grouch View Post
    If you place an object on a flat surface:
    1. It's weight + gravity will hold it in place.
    2. It will float away
    3. You have to tie it down somehow.

    Your foot on the rear, rising bicycle pedal is the same. If you don't tie it down in some manner, you have to push on the upward rising pedal and you're working against yourself.
    Nope. I do one leg drills on these pedals with old school vans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GT4 View Post
    I wanted to emphasize that he flipped on his bike still attached to his bike.
    a) I find that hard to believe b) so what? c) that wasn't his point
    Quote Originally Posted by RollCNY View Post
    I would wager that not riding in Minnesota is just as fatiguing as not riding in New York.

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    paging alan bike houston
    You could fall off a cliff and die.
    You could get lost and die.
    You could hit a tree and die.
    OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
    a) I find that hard to believe b) so what? c) that wasn't his point
    What was his point then? I just thought he misinterpreted my statement.

    Also. He was 100lb at the time, does that make it more believable?
    Last edited by GT4; 07-02-13 at 07:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GT4 View Post
    What was his point then? I just thought he misinterpreted my statement.
    His point is that he had a big ****ing crash due to his own negligence and rest is of little consequence.

    Quote Originally Posted by GT4 View Post
    Also. He was 100lb at the time, does that make it more believable?
    Is it possible? Of course. More importantly, does it have some significance? IMO, no. It doesn't take much force in the proper direction to become disengaged from pedals, Speedplays included - if you don't see enough force to become disengaged, what's the likelihood that you'll see enough force to cause additional damage because of the engagement?
    Quote Originally Posted by RollCNY View Post
    I would wager that not riding in Minnesota is just as fatiguing as not riding in New York.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillcrawler View Post
    I've been thinking about this while i was riding today. I have a hybrid bike with flat pedals and road bike clipless. As you know, you are applying maybe 4 different types of force with clipless pedals. Pressing, lifting, pushing (forward) and pulling (back). Well but in the same time you are wasting, let's say consuming more energy for your extra efforts. In the end you are getting exhausted quicker. Maybe it sounds bullish but i gave a thought about it. What would you say?
    With clipless (or cleats of course), you can go faster, period. Yes, more muscles are at work to utilize the entire cycle correctly, and all those muscles become progressively stronger and more efficient over time enabling greater power. I'd bet a very large sum of $$ that measurable results like TT's would exhibit markedly faster times with clipless vs. flats for the same riders.

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    Ahhh, the good old days
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    Quote Originally Posted by caloso View Post
    Let's save ourselves some posts and just skip ahead to the part where clipless pedals can cause death.
    I read the association of funeral directors subsidize clipless pedal sales
    You're just trying to start an argument to show how smart you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillcrawler View Post
    I've been thinking about this while i was riding today. I have a hybrid bike with flat pedals and road bike clipless. As you know, you are applying maybe 4 different types of force with clipless pedals. Pressing, lifting, pushing (forward) and pulling (back). Well but in the same time you are wasting, let's say consuming more energy for your extra efforts. In the end you are getting exhausted quicker. Maybe it sounds bullish but i gave a thought about it. What would you say?
    I say you are thinking too much. You learn to spin the pedals without thinking about it. Once your "muscle memory" gets used to the pattern, it becomes automatic. Your legs just do it.

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    You should stop thinking OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
    You should stop thinking OP.
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