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Old 07-05-13, 01:38 PM   #151
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I hope they provide security for him. Just saying.
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Jeez, they're actually promoting his appearance like it's a positive thing:
http://ragbrai.com/
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I think I might use my 1 week vacation on this thing. I'm from Iowa, but never did the Ragbrai. It's either that or the AICHE conference in November, and I'll check out California while I'm at it. Damn...
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Jeez, they're actually promoting his appearance like it's a positive thing:
http://ragbrai.com/
I was very disappointed to see that.
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I guess it's brave in a way to put yourself out there with a bunch of people who may feel let down by your actions.
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Personally, I think that if he held a signing of any LA memorabilia that people brought with them, the line-up from the table would be several blocks long... five abreast.

There are still a huge number of people who believe LA has been deeply wronged by the system, and can't see past that to understand the nastier parts of the saga.

It's an interesting aspect how people think of the villains in our society, some of whom even go on to achieve hero status.
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Old 07-06-13, 04:40 AM   #157
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I hope they provide security for him. Just saying.
For what? He's not wearing a Redskin jersey to an Eagle game...now that requires a security detail.
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Old 07-06-13, 05:22 AM   #158
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Cant blame the guy. Regardless of all his bad decisions, he's still a guy that likes to ride a bike...
He's got that at least over Lemond.
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Personally, I think that if he held a signing of any LA memorabilia that people brought with them, the line-up from the table would be several blocks long... five abreast.

There are still a huge number of people who believe LA has been deeply wronged by the system, and can't see past that to understand the nastier parts of the saga.

It's an interesting aspect how people think of the villains in our society, some of whom even go on to achieve hero status.
Society loves to make heros, and loves even more to tear them down.
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Jeez, they're actually promoting his appearance like it's a positive thing:
http://ragbrai.com/
They can't claim that until they get the test results.
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Old 07-06-13, 05:52 AM   #161
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They can't claim that until they get the test results.
But even if they do.......
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But even if they do.......
And the B sample!
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A lot of people know only of the Livestrong foundation, not the cyclist. They appreciate what the foundation has done for cancer research.
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A lot of people know only of the Livestrong foundation, not the cyclist. They appreciate what the foundation has done for cancer research.
And the foundation has done jack squat for cancer research. They don't fund research. They fund support for people undergoing treatment, but don't spend a penny on research. That's one of the many pieces of misinformation floating out there about him.
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Old 07-06-13, 07:23 AM   #165
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And the foundation has done jack squat for cancer research. They don't fund research. They fund support for people undergoing treatment, but don't spend a penny on research. That's one of the many pieces of misinformation floating out there about him.
Well those bastardos.
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Personally, I think that if he held a signing of any LA memorabilia that people brought with them, the line-up from the table would be several blocks long... five abreast.

There are still a huge number of people who believe LA has been deeply wronged by the system, and can't see past that to understand the nastier parts of the saga.

It's an interesting aspect how people think of the villains in our society, some of whom even go on to achieve hero status.
And "the system" isn't through with him yet. There's still the whistleblower lawsuit pending against him.
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I guess it's brave in a way to put yourself out there with a bunch of people who may feel let down by your actions.
more delusional than brave, in my opinion
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As long as he set up next to the naked water slide
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Jeez, they're actually promoting his appearance like it's a positive thing:
http://ragbrai.com/
for the uneducated, having a Tour de France winner, regardless of the doping issue, and one of the greatest cyclists of all time riding your ride is a great draw.


i.e. it is a positive thing
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I was very disappointed to see that.
then you probably shouldn't ride the RAGBRI


yet I'm fairly certain Lance could give an eff whether you're there or not
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then you probably shouldn't ride the RAGBRI


yet I'm fairly certain Lance could give an eff whether you're there or not
Caring isn't a bad thing.
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For what? He's not wearing a Redskin jersey to an Eagle game...now that requires a security detail.
It's cute how two bad teams care that much about each other. Touching, really.
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Well those bastardos.
I'm not saying what they doe is bad, just that what they do isn't what the majority people give them credit for doing. I remember all those cashiers asking me if I wanted to buy one of those bracelets "to support cancer research" and sometimes getting looks for saying no, but not wanting to take the time to explain to them that buying one wouldn't have supported cancer research. As a scientist, there's a big part of me that feels that more people are helped in the long term by supporting research, but as someone who has had a number of people in my family survive (and others not survive) cancer, I do see the value in supporting people undergoing treatment. It's just that that's now what Livestrong was sold as even though that's what it does that rubs me the wrong way.
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It's cute how two bad teams care that much about each other. Touching, really.
Coming from a non play off team fanboy who roots for NY and lives in Texas? I refer you to last years standings. NFC eastern division champs.. Washington Redskins. The runner up trophy's are at the end of the hallway, in the outhouse ...
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Coming from a non play off team fanboy who roots for NY and lives in Texas? I refer you to last years standings. NFC eastern division champs.. Washington Redskins. The runner up trophy's are at the end of the hallway, in the outhouse ...
Um, as much as I think that Eli is a ******, he does have 2 Lombardi trophies in the last 6 years...
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