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Old 07-04-13, 10:32 PM   #1
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Changed my general opinion

I made the earlier mistake of asking the "Friendliness question".Today I was 37 mi into a 50 mile ride on a downhill when I had a blowout due to a piece of glass on my front tire.I was going 35 mph and luckily did not crash.This road is heavily traveled by other cyclists.98% of passing cyclist both climbing and descending stopped to see if I needed any help ,offering tubes tools,food,water.one guy gave me one of his water bottles.I was so proud to be associated with all of these fellow cyclists.I too would stop to help any cyclist(except chasm 54?,).so we do indeed have a great class of cyclists in this city.Changed my opinion.
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I made the earlier mistake of asking the "Friendliness question".Today I was 37 mi into a 50 mile ride on a downhill when I had a blowout due to a piece of glass on my front tire.I was going 35 mph and luckily did not crash.This road is heavily traveled by other cyclists.98% of passing cyclist both climbing and descending stopped to see if I needed any help ,offering tubes tools,food,water.one guy gave me one of his water bottles.I was so proud to be associated with all of these fellow cyclists.I too would stop to help any cyclist(except chasm 54?,).so we do indeed have a great class of cyclists in this city.Changed my opinion.
Nice of you. I too invariably stop to inquire if help is needed. I just don't accompany my inquiry with inane waving.
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It's good to hear that. I came across a cyclist with her stem and handlebar removed from here bike. I asked if "her mechanical situation was under control" her reply was "If I needed help, I would have asked for it"

She paused and then asked "did you stop just for me?"

I wasn't sure how to take it and didn't end up forming an opinion, but Ill stop again if the same situation comes up.
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It's good to hear that. I came across a cyclist with her stem and handlebar removed from here bike. I asked if "her mechanical situation was under control" her reply was "If I needed help, I would have asked for it"

She paused and then asked "did you stop just for me?"

I wasn't sure how to take it and didn't end up forming an opinion, but Ill stop again if the same situation comes up.
Did you say "Need a hand?", or "Is your mechanical situation under control?" The latter question would sound like... spooky.
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I made the earlier mistake of asking the "Friendliness question".Today I was 37 mi into a 50 mile ride on a downhill when I had a blowout due to a piece of glass on my front tire.I was going 35 mph and luckily did not crash.This road is heavily traveled by other cyclists.98% of passing cyclist both climbing and descending stopped to see if I needed any help ,offering tubes tools,food,water.one guy gave me one of his water bottles.I was so proud to be associated with all of these fellow cyclists.I too would stop to help any cyclist(except chasm 54?,).so we do indeed have a great class of cyclists in this city.Changed my opinion.
Now you cursed yourself. Next time everybody will ignore you. Or worse.
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Did you say "Need a hand?", or "Is your mechanical situation under control?" The latter question would sound like... spooky.
I was 70 miles in and it was hot/humid. I may have looked crazy or something LOL..
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nice to hear. i've been on both sides of the equation, and there's just nothing that makes you feel nicer than being nice.
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nice to hear. i've been on both sides of the equation, and there's just nothing that makes you feel nicer than being nice.
Oh, I don't know, sometimes an effective act of revenge makes me feel pretty good.
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I myself, believe that schadenfreude is the king of the emotions.
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I made the earlier mistake of asking the "Friendliness question".Today I was 37 mi into a 50 mile ride on a downhill when I had a blowout due to a piece of glass on my front tire.I was going 35 mph and luckily did not crash.This road is heavily traveled by other cyclists.98% of passing cyclist both climbing and descending stopped to see if I needed any help ,offering tubes tools,food,water.one guy gave me one of his water bottles.I was so proud to be associated with all of these fellow cyclists.I too would stop to help any cyclist(except chasm 54?,).so we do indeed have a great class of cyclists in this city.Changed my opinion.
Now, if only those a-holes would stop throwing glass bottles on the road, you might believe their genuine concern.
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I busted the face plate off my stem on a hill climb, ss, and decided walking the bike home was my best option. I probably looked a little fredish that day - maybe I always do. I had this roadie-girl buzz me three times asking me if I needed help, and it was just a little bit insulting, like my brakes were rubbing and I didn't know what to do about it. She came across like a shepard of freds and I was a lost sheep. I think a lot has to do with how it's asked, sometimes it can come across as a mixed message.

I tore a derailleur off on my MTB and had no less than three riders come off the trail to offer help - that was very cool, getting stuck or hurt back in the woods, no cellphone, that's a nasty scenario. I'm always really to be the good Samaritan off road, maybe a little less enthusiastic in urban areas. If there are two or more riders I figure they've got it covered.
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I busted the face plate off my stem on a hill climb, ss, and decided walking the bike home was my best option. I probably looked a little fredish that day - maybe I always do. I had this roadie-girl buzz me three times asking me if I needed help, and it was just a little bit insulting, like my brakes were rubbing and I didn't know what to do about it. She came across like a shepard of freds and I was a lost sheep. I think a lot has to do with how it's asked, sometimes it can come across as a mixed message.

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Sounds like you are a wee tad sensitive.
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I even go so far as to try to overcome the psychology of a rider who doesn't want to be seen as a newb but still needs something. If you ask "do you need help?" you might get a kneejerk tough-guy-who-doesn't-ask-for-directions response of "no thanks" (same as when you are browsing in a store and the clerk says "can I help you with something?" and you say "no just browsing") and then maybe they call the wife-mobile for help. I instead ask "do you have everything you need?" which might maybe give them the sense that I respect them and am simply offering assistance if they've gotten caught out with something. I'm not sure if it makes a difference but I've provided many a spare tube and CO2 to people along more popular routes.

The trick is to refill my saddlebag when I finish the ride so I don't get caught out myself

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... I had this roadie-girl buzz me three times asking me if I needed help, and it was just a little bit insulting, like my brakes were rubbing and I didn't know what to do about it. She came across like a shepard of freds and I was a lost sheep. I think a lot has to do with how it's asked, sometimes it can come across as a mixed message....
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Sounds like you are a wee tad sensitive.
Probably insensitive - three times? She was hitting on you moron!
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