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    I want a new steel roadie frame....

    am I crazy?

    what should I buy?
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    Gunnar Roadie should be on your list at the very least. How much are you planning to spend? Budget allowing, have one made.
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    give us the Budget.

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    Budget, schmudget. $2700-ish is kinda mid-range, right?

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    no budget really but I don't want to spend too much over 1k because I've never had nor ridden steel before so if it sucks for me it wouldn't be an expensive mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bt View Post
    am I crazy?

    what should I buy?
    Yes you're crazy, join the club. Bianchi, Jamis, and Raleigh make a fair number of steel road frames. Or you could go with Soma or Surly. Or you could pay even more for a custom or semi-custom frame. I like Somas a lot. They're reasonably priced and well designed.

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    Buy a used one on ebay or Craigslist

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    All-City Mister Pink is a sick frame. I like my Soma, but maybe one day...

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    Depends why you want steel. Looks? "Ride quality"? Shatter resistance?

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    Find a Lemond Zurich in your size and buy it on ebay or craigs list. Great bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenji666 View Post
    Buy a used one on ebay or Craigslist
    Was lying around my garage, so I slapped my 8 speed group on there. It is a serviceable rig and when I dial it up to 400W it doesn't fall apart.


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    Then I suggest you buy one of these


    I know I would if buying a steel bike new.

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    Go all the way Colnago Master.
    I would by another one in a heart beat.
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    Why new? There's loads of highend steelies on ebay world wide. Go for Columbus EL-OS steel, about as good as it gets.
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    As a cyclist who started riding on steel bike's from the bike boom era. Panasonic Sport 1000, (Hi-tensile steel tubing, CroMo 4320, etc). I can say they ride very smoothly compared to an aluminum bike. (Not sure how carbon fiber rides)

    I'm a bit perplexed though. How do they make it so light? I guess it's just super thin-walled steel mixture of some kind, with the elite light-weight components and wheels you'll find on most competition bikes. The question though in my mind is, if it's steel, how come it's so darn expensive? Steel is way cheaper than aluminum and carbon fiber. I guess the price is in the their unique design?
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    Get on Richard Sach's list. I think the wait time is down to just over 11 years these days....

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    Why not set your sights higher and go for a titanium bike? There's nothing to compare with the smooth but stiff, shock-absorbing but responsive and lively feeling of titanium.

    Or you could go with one of the increasing number of custom stainless steel bike makers: firefly, anderson, a-train....
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    Quote Originally Posted by surgeonstone View Post
    Then I suggest you buy one of these


    I know I would if buying a steel bike new.
    Yeah, but does it weigh less than 15 pounds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Wrench View Post
    As a cyclist who started riding on steel bike's from the bike boom era. Panasonic Sport 1000, (Hi-tensile steel tubing, CroMo 4320, etc). I can say they ride very smoothly compared to an aluminum bike. (Not sure how carbon fiber rides)

    I'm a bit perplexed though. How do they make it so light? I guess it's just super thin-walled steel mixture of some kind, with the elite light-weight components and wheels you'll find on most competition bikes. The question though in my mind is, if it's steel, how come it's so darn expensive? Steel is way cheaper than aluminum and carbon fiber. I guess the price is in the their unique design?
    Yeah, it's higher quality tubing and very, very thin walls. My Bianch is very light for steel and earlier versions of it they had issues with the tubes splitting due to them being so stinking thin. They ended up injecting the tubes with some type of structural foam to both stiffen up the ride and also provide more structure so the tubes didn't split. Seems to work as mine is 9 years old and still pristine, even with a 200lb rider on it like me.

    Also, this level of steel is not cheaper than aluminum or carbon. This is the reason why at least Bianchi quit making them. It's just cheaper and easier to create a frame that's even lighter and stiffer by using carbon fiber.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenji666 View Post
    Yeah, but does it weigh less than 15 pounds?
    Probably not but who cares, for that I'd suffer 16or 17 lbs no prob.

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    I hadn't ridden a bike in over 40 years until last spring. I ended up buying a S-works Roubaix and then an S-works Tarmac this spring. Just a couple weeks ago I bought a Tommasini. I gotta say I was pleasantly surprised at the ride quality of the steel bike. It weighs a little more but the ride is not lacking one bit. I'm not sure why one would feel the need for a new bike either. With so many classics for sale on ebay and craigslist. I would think you could get more bike for your budget going that route.

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    anyone have an ebay link to some nice ones?

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    Find a nice older frame and build it up with modern stuff.

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    Links aren't much help until you know what size you need. Do a search for online bicycle fit (Competitive Cyclist has one) and find out what size you need. Then do searches on ebay and your local CL.
    You're just trying to start an argument to show how smart you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bt View Post
    anyone have an ebay link to some nice ones?
    What size are you?
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