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    Shoot, I haven't gotten up to 8 yet.
    I stop for people / whose right of way I honor / but not for no one.



    Originally Posted by bragi "However, it's never a good idea to overgeneralize."

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpath View Post
    Is this not the 41? I've read every post, and haven't seen anyone allude to the weight of the extra cog slowing them down. What's wrong with you all...off your drugs?
    Maybe it's because DA9000 is lighter than DA7900? The 9000 cassette has a carbon spider inside, whereas the 7900 cassettes didn't.

    And electronic DuraAce 9070 is even lighter...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doohickie View Post
    Shoot, I haven't gotten up to 8 yet.
    You'll never win the Tour de France like that.

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    If I ever buy a complete bike again (not very likely), it will probably be 11-speed. Otherwise, I don't know how long it will be before I'm due for a complete drivetrain upgrade on either of my existing bikes, but that's when I'll go to 11.... hopefully at least 5 or so years, they aren't that old yet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaTom View Post
    If I ever buy a complete bike again (not very likely), it will probably be 11-speed. Otherwise, I don't know how long it will be before I'm due for a complete drivetrain upgrade on either of my existing bikes, but that's when I'll go to 11.... hopefully at least 5 or so years, they aren't that old yet!
    In 5 years time they'll be up to 12, won't they?

    How future proof is an 11spd? Will frames go to 135 rear spacing with the next iteration, and suddenly all the bikes we've collected over the years are obsolete? Or is 11spd far enough, now that there are plenty of combinations with that elusive 16 that everyone was looking for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leinster View Post
    In 5 years time they'll be up to 12, won't they?

    How future proof is an 11spd? Will frames go to 135 rear spacing with the next iteration, and suddenly all the bikes we've collected over the years are obsolete? Or is 11spd far enough, now that there are plenty of combinations with that elusive 16 that everyone was looking for?
    Eh, how should I know... I'm just a dude that likes riding his bikes. Never cared much about 'future proof' as long as what I have works well and parts will be available for the foreseeable future. We've already went from 5 to 6, 6 to 7, 7 to 8, and so on to get to 11 speeds without much trouble save for a degree of retro-grouch static. Both of my bikes have a 16 cog, and for that I am proud, I guess. And maybe my next bike will be 12 speed... that'll just mean it's one gear faster, right?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pallen View Post
    You'll never win the Tour de France like that.
    Sure I will. Who do you think is entertaining the podium girls when the fast guys are out racing? That's what I call WIN.
    I stop for people / whose right of way I honor / but not for no one.



    Originally Posted by bragi "However, it's never a good idea to overgeneralize."

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    The chicken hat is irresistible!

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    Will get the 11sp Ultegra some time next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaTom View Post
    Eh, how should I know... I'm just a dude that likes riding his bikes. Never cared much about 'future proof' as long as what I have works well and parts will be available for the foreseeable future. We've already went from 5 to 6, 6 to 7, 7 to 8, and so on to get to 11 speeds without much trouble save for a degree of retro-grouch static. Both of my bikes have a 16 cog, and for that I am proud, I guess. And maybe my next bike will be 12 speed... that'll just mean it's one gear faster, right?!
    Well this is exactly what I'm worried about. I have a Campy 8 speed right now. Parts are at a premium. Shifters, hub, cassette, chain, derailleurs... nothing's even compatible with 9 speed (well, my KMC chain works fine). If I go 11 speed, and bikes go to 135-spaced 12 speed within a year or two, within a few years i'm going to be back to trawling eBay for bits again.

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    Nothing can be future proof forever. But even if you only upgraded to 10-speed... it's been around long enough now, and is still being offered on the vast majority of new bikes... I think you'll still have a good supply for another 20 years. Just like your Campy 8 speed. When you think about it that's not a bad run at all... I wish most everything else in life was so future proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gundom66 View Post
    So on some hills, I feel like I need a bail out gear. Originally, I was planning on going 11-32 or 12-30, or even 12-32 (SRAM). ... . Though sometimes I wish that the gearing from 19 is 22 then 25 instead of 21 and 24. Anyway, do any of you think this is the best option? I know some or most will say HTFU, but you know what? Some just really need that bail out gear - and I happen to be just one of the "some".
    Sounds like you need a lower gear but also want tighter gear spacing.

    Get a triple and run a 12-26.

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