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Old 07-08-13, 10:42 AM   #26
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check out Chrome and DZR shoes. nice looking casual/urban sneaker type shoes but with SPD compatibility.
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Old 07-09-13, 09:13 AM   #27
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I got these for under $40 on sale. The look pretty normal and performed well on my recent 10 day tour of wet Maine.

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Thanks for all the replies. I'm now on the fence whether I try the Speedplay Frogs or the Shimano 540 pedal. The 540 is about half the cost and the reviews are very good. Some of the shoes linked are nice. I had no idea there were so many options. If I needed a more dress type shoe I'd certainly consider them. I'm somewhat surprised at the affordability of some of the shoes. I like the Lake shoe, one I'd never seen before. I still thought about buying the Pearl Izumis because I like the casual running shoe look so much. And I'm sure they are more flexible than a straight riding shoe, and according to six jours they are. If I ever found myself in that position of riding longer/harder and having the Pearl Izumis tire me because of a flexible sole I could buy a more standard SPD riding shoe I guess. While it seem strange to me to buy two different shoes for the same thing I guess it's no different than what I did with running shoes. .
I have the Speedplay Frog and the Pearl Izumis shoes. I like the combination. While I wouldn't use them for racing, they do great for normal everyday riding. For even more casual riding, I use Keen Arroyo cycling sandles. The Speedplay cleats are great and they don't click when you walk and I've yet to have them clog with dirt or mud. The Speedplay pedals have much more float than the Shimano's and are easier to clip in and out of. I have the 540's also.
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Has anyone mentioned the Shimano Clikr system yet? May be worth a look of casual riding with normal looks and walkability as a main goal.

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Old 07-09-13, 02:02 PM   #30
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I think these look so cool..
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The only workplace where SPD sandals with socks are appropriate is the Rivendell warehouse.


Since I usually wear New Balance sneakers from a couple years ago, it wasn't much of a jump to wear these to work on "bike days":

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I have the Speedplay Frog and the Pearl Izumis shoes. I like the combination. While I wouldn't use them for racing, they do great for normal everyday riding. For even more casual riding, I use Keen Arroyo cycling sandles. The Speedplay cleats are great and they don't click when you walk and I've yet to have them clog with dirt or mud. The Speedplay pedals have much more float than the Shimano's and are easier to clip in and out of. I have the 540's also.
I'm glad you wrote. I'm at a place where I'm sure I'll just going to go with the Pearl Izumi shoes. As a runner, I like the running shoe look. With that said if I find that they are too soft for what I may lets say "grow biking wise" (races, groups etc) I'll just buy a more typical firm sole SPD shoe for that purpose.

You say you wouldn't use them for racing and without even yet owning a pair I can understand that. As far as your normal riding, what is normal to you? When you ride by yourself and/or with friends briskly but not all out do they let you down? For instance on days without my son say I bike 25-35 miles at 16-18 mph on roads that aren't garbage, more country type roads that aren't super smooth. Will the combo of the Pearl Izumis and Frogs produce a hotspot or tire me in someway? Would those same shoes and the 540s do the same anyway?

You seem to prefer the Speedplay Frogs over the Shimano 540. I'm not to concerned about the clipping in and out, the reviews on the 540s seem to indicate it's still easily done even by a first timer like myself. The weight of the 540s is slightly more, though according to the specs not much. Do you find a real world difference noticeable? Which do you think provides a better more secure platform overall? I don't have bad knees, does the float of the frogs matter at that point? I actually am almost afraid of having too much. The opinions of others that liken it to walking on ice concerns me. I want to feel like I'm connected to the bike. I was leaning toward the Frogs until two days ago. However, that type of disconnected "ice"thing worries me. Plus there are no "ok" opinions of them. It's the love them or hate them camps it seems.

Thanks for your help.

ps> Never knew about the clikr system. If I were even more casual I'd certainly consider those.
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I'm glad you wrote. I'm at a place where I'm sure I'll just going to go with the Pearl Izumi shoes. As a runner, I like the running shoe look. With that said if I find that they are too soft for what I may lets say "grow biking wise" (races, groups etc) I'll just buy a more typical firm sole SPD shoe for that purpose.

You say you wouldn't use them for racing and without even yet owning a pair I can understand that. As far as your normal riding, what is normal to you? When you ride by yourself and/or with friends briskly but not all out do they let you down? For instance on days without my son say I bike 25-35 miles at 16-18 mph on roads that aren't garbage, more country type roads that aren't super smooth. Will the combo of the Pearl Izumis and Frogs produce a hotspot or tire me in someway? Would those same shoes and the 540s do the same anyway?

You seem to prefer the Speedplay Frogs over the Shimano 540. I'm not to concerned about the clipping in and out, the reviews on the 540s seem to indicate it's still easily done even by a first timer like myself. The weight of the 540s is slightly more, though according to the specs not much. Do you find a real world difference noticeable? Which do you think provides a better more secure platform overall? I don't have bad knees, does the float of the frogs matter at that point? I actually am almost afraid of having too much. The opinions of others that liken it to walking on ice concerns me. I want to feel like I'm connected to the bike. I was leaning toward the Frogs until two days ago. However, that type of disconnected "ice"thing worries me. Plus there are no "ok" opinions of them. It's the love them or hate them camps it seems.

Thanks for your help.

ps> Never knew about the clikr system. If I were even more casual I'd certainly consider those.
I'm more of a long distance (for me, 50-100 miles) rider and usually average around 15-18 mph. I do long climbs but seldom do I do any sprinting. For this type of riding, they work great. They aren't exactly tight, which I like, but because of this, I think they wouldn't be a good shoe for spirited riding where sprinting was desired. Same thing for the Frogs. I like the large amount of float so I can move my foot around if needed and I like that it's so easy to clip in and out of. The cleat is quite a bit larger than SPD which I think helps with lack of hotspots. I've never had one with this combo. I do think they are an acquired taste. I didn't like them at first, but quickly grew to love how they work. Other pedals I like are Crank Brothers Candy. They are nearly as easy to clip in and out of as the Frogs. I think they work a bit better for faster riding and probably something you'll be able to grow into. The cleat is very similar as SPD.

While there is plenty of float on the Frogs, I really don't look at it as being what I would call loose. My feet don't move around much unless I want them to. That's what I like is having the ability to move them if I want. I have a bad ankle so easy of unclipping really helps on long rides where I have to unclip a bunch.

I don't think you'd be unhappy with the 540's either though. My choice has taken years to come to but my riding style has changed quite a bit as I've gotten older.
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