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Old 07-08-13, 10:33 AM   #26
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I've done this several times, seems to happen more with narrow, higher pressure tires.
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Old 07-08-13, 10:37 AM   #27
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I was riding on the shoulder on a fairly busy village street. I unintentionally (of course) hit a stone which shot out to the side just as car was passing me and it dinged the door. It did make a loud noise, and the driver pulled over in front of me, slightly cutting me off. I stopped, and he got out and he was upset. There was a very small chip in the paint. I apologized, and assured him that it was completely unintentional and simply bad luck. He wanted my information because he wanted me to be responsible for the repair. I declined because from my perspective, it was just "one of those things". He got upset and was going to call the police. I thought it was ridiculous and I wasn't going to wait for the cops on a busy holiday weekend. I gave him my name and phone number, but I haven't heard from him yet. What should I do?
Just word to the wise. Im a private investigator by trade and with your name and phone number I could have your address, DOB, SSN, and all your relatives info in about five seconds. I would not give out this info unless asked by a police officer. Crap happens, but the only party responsible for this guys door would be the state for not maintaining the road properly. (and good luck suing them)
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Just word to the wise. Im a private investigator by trade and with your name and phone number I could have your address, DOB, SSN, and all your relatives info in about five seconds. I would not give out this info unless asked by a police officer. Crap happens, but the only party responsible for this guys door would be the state for not maintaining the road properly. (and good luck suing them)
Yup, and not faulting you at all OP but I would have waited for the cops and just gotten that monkey(driver) dealt with (Off your back) forever. If he can't grasp the basics of road debris, I sure as hell wouldn't want them having my name or number.
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Where I live the highway contractors lay down a huge amount of sand and gravel every winter. You are lucky to get two years out of a windshield in a vehicle (not to mention nicks and dings in the paint). That's why you buy 'comprehensive' insurance (including glass). Things shooting up from the road are just one of the hazards of driving.

Maybe I'm too trusting, coming from a rural area, but I see nothing wrong with giving him you name and number (presuming you get his too). It would allow you to discuss things with him once he's calmed down and if he feels the need to go further with the claim you can deal with that. My guess is that he was understandably a bit p/o'ed since his car was dinged but has now reconsidered and realized it wasn't your fault.
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A funny thought, and this really doesn't apply since the law puts road debris as a basic hazard.. but if it didn't fault would more lay with whoever was responsible for leaving the debris in the roadway, cars tend to push the debris off to the sides and if this was the drivers regular route, who's to say he didn't put the debris in that position? Not practical, provable or realistic, but it made me smile.
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I am very anal about my vehicles and my bikes. With that said, I also realize that crap happens and sometimes it's really nobody's fault.
I love to see and ride nice machines- cars and bikes both, and enjoy the eye candy pics on sites like this. I'm glad there are folks who take pride or even obsess. But would you start kvetching at someone on a club ride about some gravel? No way. That's too high strung and aggressive.
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You know if you hit the pebble at just the right angle, you can actually aim it into traffic. I'm working on that.
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I was riding on the shoulder on a fairly busy village street. I unintentionally (of course) hit a stone which shot out to the side just as car was passing me and it dinged the door. It did make a loud noise, and the driver pulled over in front of me, slightly cutting me off. I stopped, and he got out and he was upset. There was a very small chip in the paint. I apologized, and assured him that it was completely unintentional and simply bad luck. He wanted my information because he wanted me to be responsible for the repair. I declined because from my perspective, it was just "one of those things". He got upset and was going to call the police. I thought it was ridiculous and I wasn't going to wait for the cops on a busy holiday weekend. I gave him my name and phone number, but I haven't heard from him yet. What should I do?
You sound like a conscientious person. There's nothing to do here.

If you weren't riding as far right as you were the same driver probably would have thought you should have been riding further to the right.

I've been on both sides of the equation. I flatted an almost new (tubular) tire because I moved over a bit, against my instincts. I flatted on the fine debris on the shoulder. Usually for a year or three after I would ride a bit wide, meaning further away from the right edge, slowly moving back towards the right, then flat again, repeat.

I even cut a car tire because I moved over in preparation to make a right. I moved over, again, with a very minor "not right" feeling, and to my surprise I blew a tire. I never saw the debris and in fact I have a dash cam and I reviewed it (I wanted to see what I hit) and couldn't see it either. I have no idea what it is although I do have the tire off and at some point I'll pull out the piece of metal.

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Proper reply; "I dont have a clue what you are talking about"
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Old 07-08-13, 02:46 PM   #35
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I pop rocks off the tires all the time - surprised you were able to launch one with enough force to dent a car. A paint chip maybe, but you must have really nailed it just right

EDIT: Oh nevermind, you said it chipped the paint. He needs to stop whining. I bet his front bumper is full of rock chips that he was never reimbursed for.
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Perfect response. He'd have to prove it if it went to small claims and that would be impossible even if it was a law that stated you were at fault.
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There was no malicious intent and the laws of physics took over. You seem like you did the right thing.
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In IL, you are not responsible for anything that came off the road. Only off your vehicle. (not tires) Like a truck spilling gravel out of his trailer is in violation. If it came out of his tires, it is not.
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I pop rocks off the tires all the time - surprised you were able to launch one with enough force to dent a car. A paint chip maybe, but you must have really nailed it just right

EDIT: Oh nevermind, you said it chipped the paint. He needs to stop whining. I bet his front bumper is full of rock chips that he was never reimbursed for.
Ever shot one off of your tire, into the guardrail, then have it bounce back and hit your leg? Those things hurt!!!
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Ever shot one off of your tire, into the guardrail, then have it bounce back and hit your leg? Those things hurt!!!
I thought those things only happen to me. Some actually make it to my face and I thought someone was chucking rocks at me.
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I thought those things only happen to me. Some actually make it to my face and I thought someone was chucking rocks at me.
I haven't had one hit my face yet, thank goodness. Have had plenty of them hit my bike from other people's tires and vice versa. I had one hit my ankle one time, that really hurt.
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I think the rock throwers should pay for damages. I'm sporting a cracked windshield, thanks to some idiot.
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Ever shot one off of your tire, into the guardrail, then have it bounce back and hit your leg? Those things hurt!!!
Just last week, I hit the guy behind me with a rock that came off of my wheel, ricocheted off the guard rail, and into his thigh. At the time I thought it was a one in a million shot. I guess not.
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Come to think of it I chipped another racer's fork with a rock at last week's Tuesday Night Worlds. A loud "Whack!" when it hit his fork.
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Just last week, I hit the guy behind me with a rock that came off of my wheel, ricocheted off the guard rail, and into his thigh. At the time I thought it was a one in a million shot. I guess not.
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As said above, you're not responsible at all. Happened to me once, the driver gave me an angry look, I ignored him and that was all.
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If he calls you, DO NOT give him any information about your insurance company or policy number.
It was an accident. If he wants to have it repaired, he should submit a claim with HIS auto insurance company.

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They always go for the easy target.
I was a cop and you're wrong with you generalizing police officers,police(myself)ride too!But you're all right the cyclist is no way responsible for the damage.
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I was a cop and you're wrong with you generalizing police officers,police(myself)ride too!But you're all right the cyclist is no way responsible for the damage.
I'm still resenting being yelled at by a cop.
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