After much browsing I've narrowed down to these two possibilities, a RED mechanical group, or a Di2 for my new build. I'm extremely indecisive on what to get (a local test ride event organized by Specialized is still months away, I'm afraid).
The other day the dealer at the LBS basically started ranting against the Di2, telling me some parts can break rather easily in the event of crashing the bike against the ground or the like (because this happened to a guy with an S-Works I coincidentally saw leaving from the LBS about a month ago, with his newly installed Di2. I think the guy broke his RD).
Don't know if the dealer is somewhat just set in his ways, but it looked instead like honest criticism to me (based to what happened to the guy with the S-Works frame).
My frame has no holes for internal cabling, so I'd have to go for the external setup.
I saw this video and the shifting speed at the end of it is impressive I think, I'm quite smitten with it atm:
On the other hand, RED's looks are more sleek (just imo of course), and from what I read the (10 speed, that is) RED is about two full pounds lighter than the electronic Ultegra.
The Di2 ends up being roughly $500 cheaper from what I've seen on ebay (around $1500, vs $2000 for the 10sp RED Black Edition) and it has the 'wow' effect from it being electronic, of course.. I'm aiming for a stealth build on a black frame, I think the Ultegra group would work a bit better (it's more all-black) for that purpose.
I don't know if waiting around more for the 11-speed RED to become more readily available would be better than getting a 10sp.. it's more expensive, but not by much, I think.
The obvious mechanical dependability/ease of service (or peace of mind/placebo effect if you prefer) of the RED groups also has me doubting in between the two.
What are your opinions on these groups? (preferably if you have some actual riding experience on them, please )
I'd really like to hear them, to try and make up my mind, I'm going in circles at this point
(certainly not pocket change for me, so I'd like to make an informed decision as much as possible).
Thanks much for your opinions