Riding in traffic question
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Riding in traffic question
Been trying to find an answer to this but no luck.
I have a question on what to do at stop lights and stop signs with no bike lane, but with one ahead after the intersection. Do I fall in line with the cars and go along or can I creep up along the right hand side and sit there and go thru the intersection side by side with the cars? I live in california btw. Also what if it is ok for me to go on the right and ride along the side of them but the lane I'm in cars use to turn, so I would be sort of blocking the turning cars but they could still squeeze by me? I come across this type
Of intersection a lot.
I have a question on what to do at stop lights and stop signs with no bike lane, but with one ahead after the intersection. Do I fall in line with the cars and go along or can I creep up along the right hand side and sit there and go thru the intersection side by side with the cars? I live in california btw. Also what if it is ok for me to go on the right and ride along the side of them but the lane I'm in cars use to turn, so I would be sort of blocking the turning cars but they could still squeeze by me? I come across this type
Of intersection a lot.
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I prefer to go through with the traffic, in the traffic lane, and then move over after clearing the intersection. When waiting at the intersection in a combined straight/right turn lane I like to stop in the left portion of the lane to allow cars to move up and turn right. The drawback is when, every once in awhile, someone will pull up beside intending to go straight, trapping you between lanes.
The problem with creeping through the intersection on the right side (or on the crosswalk) is that the drivers will not let you merge back into the road at the far side of the intersection.
The problem with creeping through the intersection on the right side (or on the crosswalk) is that the drivers will not let you merge back into the road at the far side of the intersection.
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Both riding and stopping for lights take up so much of your auto lane that cars cannot occupy it with you. If a bike lane is ahead, get there after the intersection, don't ride there with cars alongside. There is no safer way to ride in traffic. When you start up from a light that way, you don't have to think about getting squeezed. Sometimes I will move to the left even more at a right turn on red situation to make room for the cars to turn, but when I do that, it can be tricky to take possession of the main part of the lane again. Just have to feel it out.
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I agree with staying in the lane or moving left to let cars turn. Don't make a habit of parking yourself to the right of traffic at intersections or you'll get familiar with being right hooked.
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Don't be afraid to take your lane. The law will allow it because it will be as far right as safety allows. Being nice and letting cars share with you will only put you in a hazardous position.
Most of the time, motorists will patiently wait for you. I still get the occasional honk - but that's been rare this spring and summer.
Most of the time, motorists will patiently wait for you. I still get the occasional honk - but that's been rare this spring and summer.
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Thanks for clearing it up, I just want to make sure I was doing it right because I find myself in a middle of a car pack with 5 in front and 5 in back and feel like I'm holding up so many people lol
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Sometimes I stop at right front fender allowing right turn on red cars to proceed, other times I go far right, stop at curb and wave the right turn on red cars to go.
Just never do this.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jWvAxjG0kg
Just never do this.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jWvAxjG0kg
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I learned the hard way not to stop next to a car in their blind spot. I once had a car make a right turn and the rear tire ran over my foot.
Now i'm either in front or behind the car.
Now i'm either in front or behind the car.
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Merge with the traffic lane in the back and wait your turn. I see cyclists ride up to the right of cars to the front of the line. But then, all the cars just end up having to pass the cyclist after they get through the intersection. Just stay behind them because they're going to leave you behind anyway.
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I end up stopping on the crosswalk to the right of the straight ahead lane in plain view of the line of cars. It's something I picked up from observing bicycles while I'm driving. I don't want bikes waiting behind me where I can "lose" them.
And of course I never stop on the right turn lane. It is such a common jackbutt move for cyclists around here. Morons.
And of course I never stop on the right turn lane. It is such a common jackbutt move for cyclists around here. Morons.
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When waiting at the intersection in a combined straight/right turn lane I like to stop in the left portion of the lane to allow cars to move up and turn right. The drawback is when, every once in awhile, someone will pull up beside intending to go straight, trapping you between lanes.
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I slide up on the right and wait for the light to green or safe to go after a stop. I'd rather not be in the mix with cars like that.
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I don't ride on city streets very often, but when I do, I simply take up the entire lane and don't really care about slowing down the cars behind me. I'm certainly not going to be too worried about some fat blob in their ridiculous SUV who might get to wherever they're going five minutes late because of me.
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My rule is if there is no bike lane, filter only of I'm turning right. If there is a bike lane after the light, filter to the front if I'm going straight or turning left. If the light is on an incline, I always filter to the front.
As far as where I sit in the lane, I apply the motorcycle rule. If a motorcycle would be in the lane and cars wouldn't make dumb moves to endanger them, I go where they would go. Sometimes this means I block right turns when I'm going straight, so be it. All other vehicles going straight would also block right turns, why should I be expected to make things less safe for myself just because I'm on a bike?
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Slightly off topic but one time in the 1980s in Vancouver, I just came out of the Stanley Park Drive by bicycle and I was lining up at the traffic light on the road that takes you along English Bay. Behind me was this pickup truck that kept inching forward. When the light turned green I couldn't move forward because the pickup truck had jammed his bumper on to of my rear wheel.
It sort of felt good to tell him to back off - otherwise he's the one blocking all the traffic.
It sort of felt good to tell him to back off - otherwise he's the one blocking all the traffic.
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OP said a bike lane is after the intersection so I don't think what you're saying applies here. He's actually doing drivers and traffic a favor by filtering up to the front rather than sitting in a line of cars that he likely can't keep pace with when the light turns. Staying in line creates a gap that otherwise would not be there of he filtered up and only serves to slow down traffic behind.
My rule is if there is no bike lane, filter only of I'm turning right. If there is a bike lane after the light, filter to the front if I'm going straight or turning left. If the light is on an incline, I always filter to the front.
As far as where I sit in the lane, I apply the motorcycle rule. If a motorcycle would be in the lane and cars wouldn't make dumb moves to endanger them, I go where they would go. Sometimes this means I block right turns when I'm going straight, so be it. All other vehicles going straight would also block right turns, why should I be expected to make things less safe for myself just because I'm on a bike?
My rule is if there is no bike lane, filter only of I'm turning right. If there is a bike lane after the light, filter to the front if I'm going straight or turning left. If the light is on an incline, I always filter to the front.
As far as where I sit in the lane, I apply the motorcycle rule. If a motorcycle would be in the lane and cars wouldn't make dumb moves to endanger them, I go where they would go. Sometimes this means I block right turns when I'm going straight, so be it. All other vehicles going straight would also block right turns, why should I be expected to make things less safe for myself just because I'm on a bike?