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08-13-13, 07:28 PM
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Sure it does. https://calfeedesign.com/2011/02/15/m...fee-adventure/
I would love to see more carbon framed bikes being developed like this, and I think in the future we will be seeing them.
08-13-13, 08:27 PM
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I think you're right. Once more people realize that they don't need a race bike to do recreational riding, this type of bike will become mainstream.
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08-13-13, 09:29 PM
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The Calfee Adventurer is a rando bike that happens to be made out of CF instead of steel. The OP basically wants a SuperSix that takes 32c's. Not really the same thing.
They do already realize it. That's why endurance bikes have gotten so popular.
Originally Posted by Knobster
Once more people realize that they don't need a race bike to do recreational riding, this type of bike will become mainstream.
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"Available in our Dragonfly, Tetra, Luna or Bamboo frame models"
So no, it's not just a rando bike. They simply modify their existing frame models to satisfy whatever the buyer is wanting...
Personally, I think this is the best solution for the OP as he can get exactly what he wants. Even if it's not on the price list.
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I think it's pretty simple really. Supply and demand. If the demand was high for this type of bike, Specialized, Giant and Trek would all be making them. But there is very few that would want a bike like this. I have this bike but in steel and knowing how I treat this bike, I wouldn't want it in carbon. I'm sure I would have cracked a tube at some point.
08-14-13, 06:01 AM
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FYI, those designations refers to the tubing, lugging and/or materials, not the geometry or style of bike. E.g. you can get a Bamboo bike with road, cross, MTB or "adventure" geometry and specs.
The Adventurer is a specific bike and has a specific geometry: https://www.calfeedesign.com/wp-conte...50b-x-42mm.pdf
Again, the OP doesn't want a bike with a long wheelbase and stable handling, like most rando bikes. He's already said he wants a road race bike with clearance for 32c's.
Granted, I'd say that is mostly splitting hairs. However, the OP is apparently intent on doing just that.
Thus, I don't think that's the bike he is looking for. The one he wants does not exist as a production bike, he'd have to do something custom, or settle for something else.
The Adventurer is a specific bike and has a specific geometry: https://www.calfeedesign.com/wp-conte...50b-x-42mm.pdf
Again, the OP doesn't want a bike with a long wheelbase and stable handling, like most rando bikes. He's already said he wants a road race bike with clearance for 32c's.
Granted, I'd say that is mostly splitting hairs. However, the OP is apparently intent on doing just that.
Thus, I don't think that's the bike he is looking for. The one he wants does not exist as a production bike, he'd have to do something custom, or settle for something else.
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I thought it was obvious why the biggest bike makers on the planet, i.e. Specialized, Giant, Trek, Cervelo, Look, Bianchi, Scott etc don't make the bike the OP is looking for. Of course there is no demand for it...for the reasons discussed in this thread. As to a steel version...lets pick a Surly LHT which is a great bike for what it is...there is lots of demand for a touring or versatile commuting bike that will fit 32c tires...but its no crit bike...unless you do crits and don't care about finishing last.
There is demand for a bike like this, just not large enough for the big makers to build it. I suspect what we will see is something like the endurance geometry bikes by the big makers morph into something like this as the demand grows....and my opinion is it will.
08-14-13, 06:56 AM
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Check out the Pedal Force CX2. I bought a CX1 in 2009 (for more money than the CX2 which is better configured for my setup) and have put around 17,000 miles on it (almost entirely commuting but also ~150 miles with 30 lbs. on my rear rack on a short tour with my dad). Great frame for the money.
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What the op wants and what the Calfee is does not compare to a LHT or any touring bike. My Roadeo is not a touring bike, it is a road bike. It is designed to ride on the road, quickly, not haul gear around.
There is demand for a bike like this, just not large enough for the big makers to build it. I suspect what we will see is something like the endurance geometry bikes by the big makers morph into something like this as the demand grows....and my opinion is it will.
There is demand for a bike like this, just not large enough for the big makers to build it. I suspect what we will see is something like the endurance geometry bikes by the big makers morph into something like this as the demand grows....and my opinion is it will.
The reason is quite simple. The 32c carbon demand base is covered beautifully by racing Cx bikes like the Crux...or even the Specialized TriCross available in carbon in their Sworks model. Caliper brakes are too specialized when it comes to a variety of different tire volume and tread that a bike with ample tire clearance will allow. This is why long reach brakes are std on Cx type bikes.
What we are seeing with both road bikes and Cx bikes is a very slow migration toward disk brakes...makes more sense on a Cx bike for example.
Manufactures are always looking for a way to sell more product...if they perceive a demand.
The biggest shake up in the bike industry really in the last 10 years other than the continued evolution of carbon technology which just gets better is the advent of the 29er. As discussed, this is the confluence or melding of mountain bike and Cx bike...really the vertex of the two design wise. For rougher road riding, I prefer a 29er with flat. But if doing a bit more road to dirt ratio for example, I would prefer a Cx bike. And for doing ostensibly road riding with occasional forays on the dirt...even rough pavement riding, then I prefer an endurance road bike. All are suitably represented by the big players in the bike business because there is demand for each.
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