cmtbiz

Ok.. I just wanted to rant about this.

Yesterday, I almost got hit by a cyclist.

He is a nice looking decent guy and geared up in complete attire with his expensive road bike.
Only thing its missing is his STUPID BRAIN!!

I was pulling out of the small strip malls and this cyclist came from nowhere came rushing towards to the side of my vehicle (passenger side), downhill speeding on the wrong side of the street. He is riding close to the curb oncoming traffic.. on the RIGHT LANE!!

He didn't apologize for his STUPIDITY but instead he was mad and curses me and to the point wanted to bang on my vehicle. If he does that, I would not hesitate to get off the car and whip his head with my club and we will talk later.

So dude.. whoever you are, you know who I am referring to. Have some manners and do the right thing. I hate stupid people like you who ruins the image of the other cyclists in general.

DaveWC

It's called salmoning and that practice has its defenders. Seems crazy to me for all involved.

cmtbiz

I looked up for the definition of "Salmoning". Right to the point...

So dude, yes you, the stupid salmon cyclist.. read this article:

https://gothamist.com/2013/06/21/in_d..._on_a_bike.php

coasting 

It is Fing dangerous and a threat to the life of other cyclists. More than once I have nearly been run over by cars because of a salmoning asswipe. They force decent right sided cyclists to swerve out into traffic. ********. It should be a criminal offence like texting while driving should be.

cmtbiz

Yes, I actually witness people riding bicycle while looking down on their cellphones onto busy intersections. And many times I see people ride their bikes on the pedestrian sidewalk.. weaving left and right carelessly.

therhodeo

Most cyclist that I know that do this are also runners so I just assume when I see people doing it that theres something wrong with them.

rpenmanparker 

Worst thing about salmoning on a DIVIDED street is many drivers aren't looking to the right until they get half way across to the median because traffic isn't expected moving both ways on each side of the street. I have nearly missed several "salmon" this way. I see it almost exclusively with elderly men. It must be something they were taught as child, some holdover from the 30s, 40s and 50s when their moms instructed them how to pedal down elm tree lined streets. Sh&t, it's scary.

I once had a county Mountie stop me on a rural highway and make me move to the opposite side of the road to salmon against traffic. I did that for about 100 yards until he was out of sight and then crossed back over. What is wrong with people?

cmtbiz

Also to make this incident clearer.. I always look left and right regardless, when I pulled out and stopped and hang on my vehicle waiting to get clear of passing vehicle before I tried to merge in. This asswipe cyclist came from nowhere and I was surprised to see him riding towards me.

pdedes

It's an argument to pitch for contra-flow bike facilities. But that's a&s fodder. When there are salmon, I'm tempted to be the bear

jerseyJim

Whenever I run into one of these salmon while I am riding I stop, put my foot down next to the curb and wait for them to do whatever it is they want to do to get around me.

Im not swerving into traffic. Let them do it.

merlinextraligh

I hate to sound like the A&S crowd, but you have some responsibility here to.

Salmoning is clearly wrong and dangerous. However you pulled out in front of him. You had a duty to look both ways before doing so.

Had there been a child walking or running from that direction, and you pulled into them would you not be at fault?


The problem with Salmoning is drivers either don't look to their right when pulling out to turn right, or if they do, they're expecting pedestrians, and don't look far enough to see a bike coming at a greater rate of speed ( or they see it, but it doesn't register) So for all those reasons, you shouldn't Salmon.

However, drivers have to be aware that people will be coming from their right, walkers, runners, and misguided cyclists, and act accordingly.

bikecrate

I saw a cyclist doing a form of "taking the lane" while salmoning last month. At first I thought it was some temporary maneuver, but they held the course until they disappeared from the view in my mirror. Very bizarre.

Rich Gibson 

Very manly, I would say. You need a club to do your talking?

JohnJ80

In my state, if a cyclist is to ride on the road, they must ride as far to the RIGHT as it is safe to do so. So what this LEO was asking you to do would be illegal in my state.

J.

cmtbiz

No, you dont get me... I looked left and right and onto the road to make sure no souls is around before I roll my wheels.
Its a 2-way traffic and see lots of cars heading towards the right. Then I pull out and stopped. Hanged just a vehicle nose out close to the lane edge.. stopped there for few seconds looking out to the left, waited to get a clear of traffic. As I was about to merged in, I looked onto my right, then I saw this A&W cyclist heading towards my right side of the vehicle and stopped abruptly and cursing me with his hand in the air waving to me with a gesture as if telling me WTF is wrong with me.

So who do you think is wrong on this situation? I dont do such insensitive act as trying to fight the car driver and he is the one who is wrong not me?

west coast girl

I was in a situation 2 weeks ago where I had to salmon for about 100 yards. Dead little street in front of the LBS where I was heading... when I was mid-stream, a car came down the street toward me - plenty of room on the road for me to make my quick little maneuver and get off the road. He decided however, to make a point of aiming his POS car at me rather than allowing me a little room (of which there was plenty) and then swerved away at the last second.

"Salmoning" was not something I ever intended to do but we can't always be perfect, now can we?

Pug

Hmmm, I don't think I've ever witnessed someone taking off like a bat out of hell on a stolen bike, but I imagine it would look something like what you describe . . . ?

bt

op has anger management issues.

Nachoman

I had a salmon almost take me out a couple months ago. We were climbing a 10% grade, rounding a turn, my head was down, and this idiot salmon came screaming by me at top speed. I didn't even see the guy until I felt the breeze within an inch of me. He almost took out the two guys behind me too.

cmtbiz

wrong.. the stupid cyclist has anger management issues... read my post.. he is the one who was about to bash my car. So who do you think has anger issues? me? nope, it's that psycho cyclist (whoever you are). I am upset because he cursed at me.

DaveWC

Of course you can. You get off your bike and walk it for the 100 yards. The car had the right of way. We fight hard enough for our share of the road when we have a legal right to it. The last thing we need is cyclists fighting for an illegal right to the road.

ahsposo 

When life gives me salmons, I make salmon croquottes.

mr645

I almost hit a rider a few days ago. I was at an intersection waiting to turn right and of course I look to my left for cars, my right for pedestrians that may be standing on the sidewalk waiting to cross, but I did not expect or see the rider riding west on the east side.

Cyclelogikal

Definitely not a practice I have seen here in western NC and if I had I would suspect the soul to be coming off their weekend of crack addicted helter skelter and hits of acid as they perceive they are in a episode of HR Puffn Stuff conversing with Jimmy and the golden flute while weary of Witchey Poo on their heels!

I am not sure who would get cited in an incident of this magnitude. I just know when your running or walking you go against traffic and while riding a bike you ride with it! Simple practice here that should be a no brainer..............but then again this world is run by corrupt lawyers who would take that case and their law school buddy now judge would find in their favor!

But yes, that catdaddy needs a lesson on which direction he should be riding on a bike or get a stationary bike and watch his HR Puffn Stuff while safely at the confines of his residence.

Gramin

Arg! This crap drives me crazy. I live in Chicago, which has a fairly large biking population, and here are some of my favorites:

- Riding on the sidewalk
- Not stopping at stop signs and red lights
- Not yielding to pedestrians
- Weaving in and out of traffic
- Flying through North Ave Beach area and expecting children to stay put until your past

The first one drives me crazy the most. I'm tempted to push them off. Sidewalks are for walking, not cycling, unless you're under the age of 12, and you're not! Stay off my sidewalk! And don't ride your bike through the crosswalk... get your arse off and walk it.

Fortunately, the police/state/some biking org are gettting a little more involved and have been handing out safety reminders in high bike traffic areas. They're pulling over both cyclists and drivers who aren't abiding by the laws and giving them friendly reminders.