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Old 08-22-13, 05:54 PM   #1
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Jens Voigt's Position...what do you think?

Check out Jens Voigt's position in the drops below.
Do you guys run this much arm/knee overlap in the drops?
Granted he is riding the rivet to open his hip angle a bit but seem like his handlebar is in awfully close.
Who is to quibble with a top pro but what do you guys think?
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Old 08-22-13, 06:01 PM   #2
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Well, it obviously works for him. Having said that, he's been doing this since before the Wall came down, and back then the hot setup was considered to be to ride the smallest frame you could shoehorn yourself onto. It's possible that he got into that habit back then, and never broke himself of it.
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You should eat a pound (or a half kilo if you swing that way) of hot asphalt for even questioning anything Jens Voight would do.

Lie down in shame and show your belly!
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Don't make me get the newspaper.

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Check out that saddle to bar drop though!
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Old 08-22-13, 06:11 PM   #7
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You don't tug on Superman's cape
You don't spit into the wind
You don't pull the mask off that old Lone Ranger
And you don't mess around with Jens
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Old 08-22-13, 06:42 PM   #8
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I think.....you are obsessed. There is very little correlation between bike fits of one rider to the next, graphs have previously been posted which prove it - as much as 70mm difference in reach between riders of the same height. There are articles online that also talk about pros changing their stem lengths and seat heights between stages, cavendish is a notable example, big changes too. These guys ride how they are comfortable because fit is extremely personal. You simply can't measure someone and then set their bike up to some formula, if you do, it is unlikely to be optimal. My opinion of the photo, it looks like he's one of the most successful old blokes ever to ride a bike, you should learn from him rather than question or critique.
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Shut up legs! That's what I think...
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Why isn't this post in "Fitting your bike"?
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Why isn't this post in "Fitting your bike"?
Why isn't it on Oprah?
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Jens is DA MAN!!!
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I think the question you should be asking is why doesn't your position on the bike match his...because clearly his position is correct. He's Jens Voigt for goodness sake.
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Jens doesn't get no stinkin' fit, the bike submits to him. If it had knees it would kneel.
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I've got my own fit issues at the moment and have been reading some of Andy Pruitt's various columns and interviews.

Jens is named by Dr. Pruitt as an example of a Pro he has worked with but, who's position could be greatly improved, and, which remains less than ideal because of sponsorship constrants and other compromises.

Not all the pros are perfect examples of an ideal position. Every position is unique to the rider, their goals/requirements, flexibility, strength and the equipment choices available.
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I bet thst you would also have the bawls to comment on the set up of Eddy as well. BLASFEMER!!!!
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When your bike has "I'm Jens Mother ******** Voigt!" written on it, you can ride it any way you want.
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even though your bike has "i'm jens mother ******** voigt!" written on it, you ride it the way your sponsors and team manager tell you to ride it if you want to continue to recieve a pay check.
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I feel its a little off but to question him about it would be like asking God why he mad bee's that sting
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Jens Voigt is a monster
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Campag4life,

Does this thread have any thing to do with Tromboneal's: http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...k-Friend-s-Fit ?
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Jens power data from yesterday... I think he's doing ok on a brand new bike.. so it's probably set up about as good as he wants it.

http://www.trainingpeaks.com/av/DL3Q...5DMTKXBMFWBH5E
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Anyone who can put out 1200 watts, even for a few seconds, can be riding upside down while sucking his toes, for all I care. I can't even imagine that kind of power at 42 years old and 9,000 feet.
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He only averaged 220 watts. Hell, I can do that on a Saturday group ride. What does Jens weigh? Maybe if I drop 40kg there's still hope for a pro career for me at 43 y.o.a.
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