Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 26 to 50 of 52
  1. #26
    Senior Member rumrunn6's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    25 miles northwest of Boston
    My Bikes
    Bottecchia Sprint
    Posts
    12,467
    Mentioned
    5 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    op - tell the cops - other parts of the country are more bike friendly for sure
    cycling is like baseball ~ it doesn't take much to make it interesting

  2. #27
    An Average Joe Cyclelogikal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    NC
    My Bikes
    '13 Orbea Orca
    Posts
    646
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    It can be where you live to a degree but it happens from time to time in any location. You get the Billy Bobs in the big trucks that shower down on the throttle and yell as they go by; the cars that fan you when they have all the room in the world to go around with a buffer; you get the teenage drivers that think it is cool to throw trash at you as they go by; and you get the picture. I guess I am glad where I live in ride as being very bike friendly for the most. People are just use to bikers for the most part here in western NC.

    Either way try getting a tag when these Jackwagons go by and report each time to police of the incident and location. If a officer ever shows up at their door inquiring to road rage < just a term they may think twice before the next hazing incident.
    I am just a spoke in a broken wheel!

  3. #28
    Senior Member Chaco's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Encinitas CA
    My Bikes
    Scott CR1 Team
    Posts
    829
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    San Diego, and especially North County, has thousands of cyclists on the road. Most drivers are great. But even here cyclists can literally become targets. And every time there's an article about cycling in the local newspaper, there are some wacko anti-cyclists who come out of the woodwork to spew their venom. I think these are mostly people who are mad at the world and filled with rage. If they weren't attacking cyclists, they'd be hunting for someone else to blame for their problems.
    Scott CR1 Team

  4. #29
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    185
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilum View Post
    Having spent time in the Marines, I tend to act before I think.
    Thinking at all is a pretty impressive for a Marine ... sorry, couldn't resist. Semper Fi!

  5. #30
    Senior Member Mike F's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    San Diego
    My Bikes
    2012 Scott CR1 Team, Felt Z85
    Posts
    2,035
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Chaco View Post
    San Diego, and especially North County, has thousands of cyclists on the road. Most drivers are great. But even here cyclists can literally become targets. And every time there's an article about cycling in the local newspaper, there are some wacko anti-cyclists who come out of the woodwork to spew their venom. I think these are mostly people who are mad at the world and filled with rage. If they weren't attacking cyclists, they'd be hunting for someone else to blame for their problems.
    Agreed! I think the news sites here post the accidents knowing they will get more comments/hits for their advertisers. Anybody who has ever been slighted by a bicyclist gets online to spew bike hate. Its also a very conservative area and it always leads back to "they dont pay road taxes" argument. Once a guy went so far as to say the hobo's shouldnt uses public streets or sidewalks because they dont pay taxes either.
    2012 Scott CR1 Team
    2011 Felt Z-85
    2005 Jamis Durango Sport

  6. #31
    Senior Member Chaco's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Encinitas CA
    My Bikes
    Scott CR1 Team
    Posts
    829
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike F View Post
    Once a guy went so far as to say the hobo's shouldnt uses public streets or sidewalks because they dont pay taxes either.
    Here's another example, from a UT article on bicycling becoming more popular in San Diego:

    "I love those memorials along the roadways with the photo of the deceased bike rider that swerved out into the traffic lane and got mangled, those bundles of flowers are so touching. A TOAST TO DEFECTIVE REASONING OF THE DEPARTED."

    This was from a tactful, sympathetic genius named Bud Henry. When you click on his name, up comes his Facebook page, filled with lunatic ravings from the Tea Party.
    Scott CR1 Team

  7. #32
    Senior Member Mike F's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    San Diego
    My Bikes
    2012 Scott CR1 Team, Felt Z85
    Posts
    2,035
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Chaco View Post
    Here's another example, from a UT article on bicycling becoming more popular in San Diego:

    "I love those memorials along the roadways with the photo of the deceased bike rider that swerved out into the traffic lane and got mangled, those bundles of flowers are so touching. A TOAST TO DEFECTIVE REASONING OF THE DEPARTED."

    This was from a tactful, sympathetic genius named Bud Henry. When you click on his name, up comes his Facebook page, filled with lunatic ravings from the Tea Party.
    What a tool. I tried to hit the link but Papa Doug say's I need to buy a subscription to read his tripe. Ill clear the cookies and lurk until, I hit quota.
    2012 Scott CR1 Team
    2011 Felt Z-85
    2005 Jamis Durango Sport

  8. #33
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Pensacola, FL
    My Bikes
    Cannondale Synapse 7 Sora
    Posts
    71
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    In FL you have to have proof before police will do anything, so Im thinking about buying a GoPro. Like I said, it's not like this happens every time I get on the bike, but it does happen enough to cause concern.

  9. #34
    A might bewildered... Dudelsack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Loovul
    My Bikes
    Bacchetta Giro ATT 26; Lemond Buenos Aires
    Posts
    6,291
    Mentioned
    15 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Chaco View Post
    Here's another example, from a UT article on bicycling becoming more popular in San Diego:

    "I love those memorials along the roadways with the photo of the deceased bike rider that swerved out into the traffic lane and got mangled, those bundles of flowers are so touching. A TOAST TO DEFECTIVE REASONING OF THE DEPARTED."

    This was from a tactful, sympathetic genius named Bud Henry. When you click on his name, up comes his Facebook page, filled with lunatic ravings from the Tea Party.
    Would it have been better if he were a member of the Communist Party?

  10. #35
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    My Bikes
    CAAD10 Rival
    Posts
    389
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Despite those isolated cases in San Diego, I have not experienced any problems like this in SoCal. As some have mentioned, it seems like this is a general personality problem with people who are similar to Tea Party fringe nuts. Luckily, there aren't a lot of those people in SoCal or in the West coast in general probably because they can't afford to live here. It's hard to imagine an anti-cyclist radio program originating here without causing an uproar.

    Crazy drivers are everywhere though and it's best to avoid riding in busy roads. If for nothing else, stop lights and the dirty exhaust air alone should be enough to persuade many of us to ride in the mountains/less crowded areas.

  11. #36
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    185
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    There are plenty of people everywhere with 'personality problems' lol. I don't think the Tea Party has a monopoly on that. Asshats are asshats regardless of political, religious, or social outlooks.

  12. #37
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Belgium
    Posts
    775
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I have ridden in lots of cities around the world and never experienced the vitriol you speak of. I was stationed in Pensacola, did some riding there never had a problem, I grew up just outside of New York City and used to ride to Yankee games, never had a problem. I have lived and ridden in many cities among them areas such as Chicago, Miami, San Diego, LA, St louis, Seattle, and from 2010 to 2012 I spent the better part of two years commuting in the crazy traffic of Rabat Morocco. Right now I live in Belgium where the drivers are crazy and the roads are not only S**t but they are often narrow and winding and still no problems. Although I have received a honk from time to time I have never been cut off or purposely clipped. I have been nearly clipped by cab drivers in Morocco but never on purpose and they were always appologetic when I tapped the side of their car to remind them of my presence.

    Most of the time, like another posted mentioned, I ride a few feet into the lane instead of next to the curb/in the gutter. Riding like this cars are less inclined to squeeze by you and tend to move over in the lane or move to the other lane completely to pass. I move further into the lane as the roads narrow and wave cars around me when I feel it is safe for them to pass. Mostly I ride predictably and ascertively as possible...if and when someone honks they get a wave...if someone gives me the bird they get a wave too.

    Not saying there aren't A-holes out there, but I tend to not have attracted them in all my years of riding...which is odd because normally conflict tends to find me without me having to hunt it down.

    -j

  13. #38
    I got 99 problems.... thump55's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Does anyone know where the love of God goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
    Posts
    1,930
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilum View Post

    In an area that's population is only 250,000 it disturbs me how often this sort of stuff happens.
    I had to chuckle...that's way more people than my whole county.

    People are pretty cool up here, and if you do have an encounter with a grumpy motorist, you can usually diffuse the situation by offering to take their number and call them anytime you spot fresh roadkill.

  14. #39
    Pug
    Pug is offline
    High Modulus Pug's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Madison, NJ
    My Bikes
    Cervelo R3, Jamis Nova, Ridley Phaeton
    Posts
    637
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I've heard of motorcyclists flying American flags from their bikes and, anecdotally, incidents of harassment seemed to decline. I guess it would be un-American for them to run you over? On the other hand, you may get accidentally run over by someone saluting.

  15. #40
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Owings Mills, Maryland
    My Bikes
    2011 Trek 8.4 DS hybrid; 2012 Felt F-75 road bike; 1990 Specialized Stumpjumper MTB; 1992 Guerciotti road bike (inactive)
    Posts
    494
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    If it's any consolation, many a nasty, mean, motorist is often just as nasty and mean on the highway...to other motorists!

  16. #41
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    4,502
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dudelsack View Post
    Would it have been better if he were a member of the Communist Party?
    Nah, because if that were true it'd be impossible for him to turn political differences into morality and/or superiority plays.

    I guess he'd rather get run off the road by a Prius plastered with Obama and "coexist" bumper stickers. Funny how when that happened to me I didn't think that made all Obama supporters crazy loons.

  17. #42
    A might bewildered... Dudelsack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Loovul
    My Bikes
    Bacchetta Giro ATT 26; Lemond Buenos Aires
    Posts
    6,291
    Mentioned
    15 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by achoo View Post
    Nah, because if that were true it'd be impossible for him to turn political differences into morality and/or superiority plays.

    I guess he'd rather get run off the road by a Prius plastered with Obama and "coexist" bumper stickers. Funny how when that happened to me I didn't think that made all Obama supporters crazy loons.
    Yeah. On balance I think those right of center have less sympathy for us, although I remind some of the more strident posters on other forums that a surprising number of cyclists are pro2A and not to do anything stupid.

    Having said that, the closest I've come to being killed was by a car that right-hooked me downtown, and it had an Obama sticker on it. I agree, most people with Obama stickers on their car are pretty courteous drivers by and large.

  18. #43
    Senior Member Chaco's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Encinitas CA
    My Bikes
    Scott CR1 Team
    Posts
    829
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dudelsack View Post
    Yeah. On balance I think those right of center have less sympathy for us, although I remind some of the more strident posters on other forums that a surprising number of cyclists are pro2A and not to do anything stupid.

    Having said that, the closest I've come to being killed was by a car that right-hooked me downtown, and it had an Obama sticker on it. I agree, most people with Obama stickers on their car are pretty courteous drivers by and large.
    I didn't point out the Tea Party stuff about that commenter to make an abstract political point. The fact is that Mr. Henry is a Tea Party advocate, and his rants against cyclists are part of his political philosophy. In fact, he appears to be convinced that all attempts to make streets safer for bicyclists are part of the the "UN Agenda 21" so-called conspiracy. If he had been a nut from the left, I would have pointed that out too, But I'm not aware of any crazy left wing groups that are anti-cycling. There are, however, plenty of Tea Party nuts who are anti-cycling and share the sentiments of Mr. Henry.

    I definitely do NOT believe, OTOH, that careless driving has anything to do with politics. Careless drivers are all over the spectrum. But they are not the same as people who have a political agenda against bicyclists. Note I'm not saying one is better than the other -- just different.
    Scott CR1 Team

  19. #44
    Senior Member Mike F's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    San Diego
    My Bikes
    2012 Scott CR1 Team, Felt Z85
    Posts
    2,035
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    ^ I feel its the misinformation about paying road taxes that gets a lot of these people going here. They feel that they are the only tax payers and cyclists are no different than junkies getting a government hand out. And heaven for bid their jaunt to the golf course or races gets inconvenienced by a non-tax paying hippy leach on society. This place is bat ship crazy.

    "Reddy Kilowatt", "Bootstrap" and the biggest offender whose handle escapes (Bald eagle avatar), they all wish harm and death on riders and are are so far right in other posts they make Palin look like Jane Fonda. Chaco's assessment is pretty accurate for the San Diego media base.
    Last edited by Mike F; 08-26-13 at 09:43 PM.
    2012 Scott CR1 Team
    2011 Felt Z-85
    2005 Jamis Durango Sport

  20. #45
    Erect member since 1953 cccorlew's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Antioch, CA (SF Bay Area)
    My Bikes
    Roubaix Expert, Motobecane Fantom Outlaw turned commuter, Cannondale F500 Mtn bike, Some old French thing gone fixie
    Posts
    6,575
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by generalkdi View Post
    Here there is a radio that has a "Honk a cyclist" campaign. Basically, they want drivers to pass as close as possible to cyclists and honk them. They even ask to call and do it live, or tell stories about when they did it.

    It is really ridiculous to see people use their "power", to do such things...
    Is this legal? I hoe the radio promoters are cited for inciting illegal behavior. I'd even write an FCC letter when their license comes due. Who are these "people," what station?
    WANTED: Not a darn thing. I've got it all. Life is good.
    Website at curtis.corlew.com Bicycle blog at ccorlew.blogspot.com

  21. #46
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Quebec, Canada
    My Bikes
    SuperSix 5 2012
    Posts
    675
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by cccorlew View Post
    Is this legal? I hoe the radio promoters are cited for inciting illegal behavior. I'd even write an FCC letter when their license comes due. Who are these "people," what station?
    CHOI RadioX Started this and then these guys added some more : http://www.radioego.com/ego/listen/8268

    This is an example of what they do. Even if you don't understand french, the first part is in english and is pretty clear. I guess honking cyclists is not quite "illegal" but plain stupid.

  22. #47
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Pensacola, FL
    My Bikes
    Cannondale Synapse 7 Sora
    Posts
    71
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    250,000 is the the whole county.

    Greenfieldja, Pensacola has changed drastically in the last few years. I've been here for 18 years, and the area gets progressively worse every year.

  23. #48
    Peloton Dog patentcad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Chester, NY
    My Bikes
    2013 Scott Foil, 2009 Scott Addict R2, 2008 Cervelo P3 TT bike, 2008 Motobecane Fly Ti Hard Tail MTB
    Posts
    56,331
    Mentioned
    36 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    In nearly 17 years of riding up here (over 100K road miles) I've only had one run-in with a yahoo redneck motorist. We're 50 miles NW of NY City, so it's somewhat rural here, but even living and riding down in Bergen and Rockland Counties closer to NYC, I rarely had problems. I think there are more idiots patrolling the roads in places like FL.

  24. #49
    A might bewildered... Dudelsack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Loovul
    My Bikes
    Bacchetta Giro ATT 26; Lemond Buenos Aires
    Posts
    6,291
    Mentioned
    15 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Chaco View Post
    I didn't point out the Tea Party stuff about that commenter to make an abstract political point. The fact is that Mr. Henry is a Tea Party advocate, and his rants against cyclists are part of his political philosophy. In fact, he appears to be convinced that all attempts to make streets safer for bicyclists are part of the the "UN Agenda 21" so-called conspiracy. If he had been a nut from the left, I would have pointed that out too, But I'm not aware of any crazy left wing groups that are anti-cycling. There are, however, plenty of Tea Party nuts who are anti-cycling and share the sentiments of Mr. Henry.

    I definitely do NOT believe, OTOH, that careless driving has anything to do with politics. Careless drivers are all over the spectrum. But they are not the same as people who have a political agenda against bicyclists. Note I'm not saying one is better than the other -- just different.
    Take it to P&R.

  25. #50
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Shenandoah Valley, VA
    Posts
    273
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Here in the Shenandoah Valley cycling is great. We've got our share of jerks but in general drivers are cautious and courteous. You are much more likely to get a "wave" than a "finger". I guess folks here are generally easy going and more interested in their business than everyone else's.

    As far as the Quebec radio station - I'd begin a boycott of the station's advertisers. Send them a letter telling them that a boycott is being formed and that they should call the station to make their displeasure known. Also let the station know that if any cyclists are injured as a result they will be suing the station, their employees who promote this behaviour and possibly sponsors. This is irresponsible to the max and needs to be stopped. Talk about a pack of fools.

    And for those trying to link bad behaviour toward cyclists to Tea Party or other political beliefs you are barking up the wrong tree. Just because a local nut-job self identifies with the Tea Party (or any other group) doesn't mean that they actually belong or that the group wants anything to do with them. A nut job is a nut job - hope that he limits his damage to useless ranting on the Web.

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •