Last edited by Dunbar; 08-26-13 at 11:26 AM.
OP if you are not racing, it does not matter. Test ride what you like and whatever feels best, and makes you happy, buy. Bring your own wheels so you are testing the frame, and not the OEM wheels. Get the fit close too and ride them back to back. Enjoy yourself, and bring a friend!
I have a very comfy cervelo R3 and an SW venge and can tell you that a venge is not super harsh. IME (test rode several S5s) the venge is less harsh and sprints better then an S5. I love the venge in crits, esp with good pavement (see the driveway in Austin Texas).
BLUFF test ride what looks good, and buy what you enjoy and if it makes you happy and keeps you on the bike having fun, buy whatever makes you happy. Good luck man!
very close set ups. R3 has higher HT by about 1 cm while both bikes are 56 w/ 100, 6 degree stems flipped and slamed. Same toupe saddles (SW on venge, pro on R3, both 130) same set back, height ect... Both '12 RED pre yaw, speed play zeros. R3 has zip service corse tape, venge double wrap censelli (sp?) tape, which I love!!! Cork is grippy, and soft. Both 175 cranks, SW crank w/ areo rotor 53/39 and R3 has a rotor 3D+ w/ 50/36 regular qrings. Venge has a new quarg and rides enve 45cc and mich pro 4 service course and R3 is on DA C24, and 4000s. Both bikes on race lite latex tubes.
Bluff venge is a bit more aggressive (1cm drop) but not too much. Maybe next year will try a 110 stem... Thanks!
Last edited by chiefDave; 08-26-13 at 08:30 PM. Reason: typo
I like your taste in bikes and parts.
Cervelo S2 | Zipp | SRAM | Rotor
Thanks. I only got measured at the store (R&A Cycles in Park Slope, Brooklyn NY), so they could get the correct bike size. I've been riding a size 54 but now it appears that 56 is the correct size for me. I think I am also gonna have a pro fitting done at my LBS.Enjoy the bike and tell us how it all works out regarding the buying experience, fitting, training, etc.
No one's really said much about the Wilier. The GT is more of an endurance bike, with a taller head tube for comfort. OP, is the GT spec'd with FULL Ultegra now? When they first came out a couple of years back, they kind of dummed it down with an Ultegra/FSA mix.
I do race (or did until a couple years ago) and some of my most competitive memories involve Saturday morning sprints against my training ride buddies. I don't doubt an aero frame and aero wheels didn't make a difference in the outcomes, race or training.
You're just trying to start an argument to show how smart you are.