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Old 08-26-13, 06:37 PM   #1
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Can you tell me the difference between Continental GP4000s and Grand Prix 4000s?

So what's the difference between these 2 Continental tires?

Continental GP4000s
Continental Grand Prix 4000s

I see the Grand Prix is a few dollars more.

I've been running Michelin's for many sets - Pro3s and a couple sets of Pro4's but want to switch now after getting a weird cut on a new one.

Thanks.
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Old 08-26-13, 06:44 PM   #2
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I dunno, what does the "GP" in GP4000s stand for? I'm cudgeling my brains here, and I can't figure it out.




At some point not too long ago, Continental changed the label on the tire and started spelling out the "Grand Prix". I think the "GP4000s" you're looking at might be an older model. that's all I can come up with.
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Old 08-26-13, 06:49 PM   #3
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Yeah I never knew to differentiate them either and thought like you. But now I see them listed on probikekit.com and merlincycles.com separately, and apparently the Grand Prix are a few bucks more.
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You sure you are not confusing GP4000 and GP4000s??

The 4000 (no s) come in different colors and do not have the black chili compound unless they are black.

The 4000s only comes in black and also has black chili.
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You sure you are not confusing GP4000 and GP4000s??

The 4000 (no s) come in different colors and do not have the black chili compound unless they are black.

The 4000s only comes in black and also has black chili.
No, look:

GP4000s: http://www.probikekit.com/bicycle-ty.../10780063.html
Twin pack: http://www.probikekit.com/bicycle-ty.../10779986.html

And Grand Prix 4000s Twin Pack: http://www.probikekit.com/cycling-ac.../10838844.html

Lastly - a tire being called both GP4000s and Grand Prix 4000s in the description: http://www.merlincycles.com/bike-sho...e-gp4000s.html

I don't get it. But PBK seems to differentiate with pictures, description and a couple more dollars. But I still don't get it!
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Old 08-26-13, 07:04 PM   #6
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Just saw these guys: http://www.merlincycles.com/bike-sho...yres-pair.html

Maybe I'll keep it simpler and get them!
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The S is the important part. I have no idea what's up with their site, but just get the second one on your list. The [SUP]s[/SUP] on the otherwise all-black sidewall is what you want.
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The S is the important part. I have no idea what's up with their site, but just get the second one on your list. The [SUP]s[/SUP] on the otherwise all-black sidewall is what you want.
but they all have the S! Thanks. I like that force attack combo.
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but they all have the S! Thanks. I like that force attack combo.
Attack/ Force, as I understand, is very short-lived. Get this:

http://www.probikekit.com/bicycle-ty...n=AffiliateWin

Just do it and thank us. Again, I have no idea what's going on over there. Maybe an intern got confused. Trust me, those are right.
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+1 there is no difference, just that buying a set gives you a few bucks discount
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Haha ok I trust you. Thanks!
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Hi,

The GP4000s is a folding tyre, the Grand Prix 4000s isn't.
Folding tyres, kevlar bead, are usually a little more
than a non-folding wired bead and a little lighter.

rgds, sreten.

The Force Attacks don't look like folding tyres.
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No, look:
Look at a listing from those links... can you find both tires?

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Hi,

The GP4000s is a folding tyre, the Grand Prix 4000s isn't.
Folding tyres, kevlar bead, are usually a little more
than a non-folding wired bead and a little lighter.

rgds, sreten.

The Force Attacks don't look like folding tyres.
The tires you mention are all foldable. Not available any other way.

http://www.conti-online.com/www/bicy...kforce_en.html

http://www.conti-online.com/www/bicy...dp4000_en.html

http://www.conti-online.com/www/bicy...p4000S_en.html
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As others have said, they're the same, that's just PBK being stupid.

Most likely, the twin pack is shipped from the vendor as a different SKU/UPC than the singles. Most likely 23mm x2 was done in house by PBK with two singles. The descriptions were written by two different people. When the markdowns happen, they're most likely affected differently because of the different SKUs and no one has caught it yet because it's a sweeping discount across several items.
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As others have said, they're the same, that's just PBK being stupid.

Most likely, the twin pack is shipped from the vendor as a different SKU/UPC than the singles. Most likely 23mm x2 was done in house by PBK with two singles. The descriptions were written by two different people. When the markdowns happen, they're most likely affected differently because of the different SKUs and no one has caught it yet because it's a sweeping discount across several items.

Yeah that's definitely it. I also noticed on PBK that you can buy the GP4000S for $39.99, but if you look at all tires by brand / Continental, you'll also find GP4000S + free inner tube for $39.99! This thread serves as a lesson!
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