New toy landed on my desk today
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I just installed a SRAM Force crank, so not sure this is on the short for 2013. However this may be an nice christmass add on.
I'm a little confused on how to order if I were interested. Do I send them my left crank arm, or do just purchase an already equipend left arm crank arm. I'm only concerend because they show they do not carry the Sram Force arm...
Looking forward to how you like this thing. I've been curious about power but it just seems so costly.
I'm a little confused on how to order if I were interested. Do I send them my left crank arm, or do just purchase an already equipend left arm crank arm. I'm only concerend because they show they do not carry the Sram Force arm...
Looking forward to how you like this thing. I've been curious about power but it just seems so costly.
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I've been wanting to give it a try due to the low cost, but I decided to pass based on the negative reviews from DC Rainmaker. After reading the updated review of firmware 2.0.1 I thought I'd give it a shot. I have a race this Sunday so I'll run it a long with a powertap and see how close the results are.
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It's a tad bit more than just an "$899 crank arm". if you compare what's available in the powermeter market, it's actually quite reasonably priced. You can also get the 105 crank arm for $699 if $899 is too steep.
The cheapest ready to roll option from powertap direct is $899 for 1800g rear wheel with a G3 hub.
Quarq $1,500 - $2,000
SRM $2,500 - $5,000
Garmin Vector $1,800
power2max is $900 - $1,600 without chainrings.
The cheapest ready to roll option from powertap direct is $899 for 1800g rear wheel with a G3 hub.
Quarq $1,500 - $2,000
SRM $2,500 - $5,000
Garmin Vector $1,800
power2max is $900 - $1,600 without chainrings.
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I am on their 3rd crank arms. The first one was sent me DOA, reading was over the roof. Then the 2nd one lasted for about a month, the cheap plastic housing cracked. Again, they sent me the 3rd one, now i am wondering how long will this one last? For almost $1000 bucks, and all the hassle of going back and forth to the shop to get them installed, taken out, replaced like an idiot, I should have saved my $ and go for the better alternatives.
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let me know when the pod falls off of the crank so I can call them and ask for another replacement arm. 100% of the ones weve sold have come back with the pods hanging off. sold 10 of them. Hope its better now
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pedaling out of a corner. I have the opposite pedal down to take the corner, but when coming out of the corner I tend to start pedaling a little too early, but that is simply retraining myself to start pedaling a little later or pull up a little sooner (different clearance coming from speedplay).
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yup they at least had if not still have an issue with the epoxy they use, it releases off of the arm and the pod falls off, sometimes completly other times just hanging on by two millimeter wires.
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From the manufacturers description: For cross-bonding bare metal to plastic, such as: Ground effects; hood scoops; door skins - composite or metal; Corvette body panel installations; Kemlite roofs - semi trailers; trailer walls; compact freight vehicles or RVs; factory truck hoods - aluminum brackets to composite, headlight buckets, etc
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100% failure rate? I guess there's no polite way of saying I don't believe you for a second. If any product suffered a failure rate higher than 15 - 20% they would almost certainly go bankrupt servicing RMA requests... let alone 100% I did see a couple posts on slowtwitch and other places discussing the issue, but most are cross posts by the same people. The shop I purchased from has been selling stages meters since April and have moved a lot more than 10 units. So far they've had two DOA and no returns after being successfully setup. Now that's not to say that a customer hasn't had problems and dealt with Stages directly.
It's not bonded with epoxy. It's bonded with Fusor 116 plastic to metal adhesive.
From the manufacturers description: For cross-bonding bare metal to plastic, such as: Ground effects; hood scoops; door skins - composite or metal; Corvette body panel installations; Kemlite roofs - semi trailers; trailer walls; compact freight vehicles or RVs; factory truck hoods - aluminum brackets to composite, headlight buckets, etc
It's not bonded with epoxy. It's bonded with Fusor 116 plastic to metal adhesive.
From the manufacturers description: For cross-bonding bare metal to plastic, such as: Ground effects; hood scoops; door skins - composite or metal; Corvette body panel installations; Kemlite roofs - semi trailers; trailer walls; compact freight vehicles or RVs; factory truck hoods - aluminum brackets to composite, headlight buckets, etc
Sounds like the OP has data and calibrations issues as well any word on if these have been resolved by the OP? Wouldn't the LBS typically do this work or did you buy direct from the OEM?
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Yea.. you can still hit the pedal but i dont think you can hit the Pod part.. It is even with the bottom of the crank arm.. so even if you lean it way over with your outside foot down the crank arm is going to hit first.
I don't own one but just don't think the risk of hitting it on the ground is the top reason you shouldn't get one..
I don't own one but just don't think the risk of hitting it on the ground is the top reason you shouldn't get one..
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Yea.. you can still hit the pedal but i dont think you can hit the Pod part.. It is even with the bottom of the crank arm.. so even if you lean it way over with your outside foot down the crank arm is going to hit first.
I don't own one but just don't think the risk of hitting it on the ground is the top reason you shouldn't get one..
I don't own one but just don't think the risk of hitting it on the ground is the top reason you shouldn't get one..
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I've put three rides on it and the pod hasn't fallen off I have to say I like it so far.
First ride was with the stages meter by itself. I wanted to do a workout using this meter and see if felt too easy or too hard based on my numbers using the powertap and computrainer. The workout sucked equally as much as it did using the powertap.
Today I was using both meters with 500, and 510 computer. Below is the output form poweragent... Both meters were zeroed beforehand and the stages was consistently 4 - 6 watts higher than the powertap. The numbers seemed to jive with each other when power was less than 150
Powertap
[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]Total Elapsed Time[/TD]
[TD]1:05:13
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ride Time (Time Moving)[/TD]
[TD]1:03:09
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Distance, mi[/TD]
[TD]21.08
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Work, kJ[/TD]
[TD]628
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Temperature, °F[/TD]
[TD]67.0
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Average Power, Watts[/TD]
[TD]217
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Average Cadence[/TD]
[TD] 96
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Average Speed, mph[/TD]
[TD]21.65
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Average Heart Rate[/TD]
[TD]164
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Weight, lbs[/TD]
[TD]175
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]VAM[/TD]
[TD]543
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Device[/TD]
[TD]Edge 500 v3.000
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Stages
[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]Total Elapsed Time[/TD]
[TD]1:05:15
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ride Time (Time Moving)[/TD]
[TD]1:03:14
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Distance, mi[/TD]
[TD]21.11
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Work, kJ[/TD]
[TD]639
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Temperature, °F[/TD]
[TD]66.3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Average Power, Watts[/TD]
[TD]221
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Average Cadence[/TD]
[TD] 93[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Average Speed, mph[/TD]
[TD]21.61
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Average Heart Rate[/TD]
[TD]161
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Weight, lbs[/TD]
[TD]175
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]VAM[/TD]
[TD]546
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Device[/TD]
[TD]Unknown[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
First ride was with the stages meter by itself. I wanted to do a workout using this meter and see if felt too easy or too hard based on my numbers using the powertap and computrainer. The workout sucked equally as much as it did using the powertap.
Today I was using both meters with 500, and 510 computer. Below is the output form poweragent... Both meters were zeroed beforehand and the stages was consistently 4 - 6 watts higher than the powertap. The numbers seemed to jive with each other when power was less than 150
Powertap
[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]Total Elapsed Time[/TD]
[TD]1:05:13
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ride Time (Time Moving)[/TD]
[TD]1:03:09
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Distance, mi[/TD]
[TD]21.08
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Work, kJ[/TD]
[TD]628
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Temperature, °F[/TD]
[TD]67.0
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Average Power, Watts[/TD]
[TD]217
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Average Cadence[/TD]
[TD] 96
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Average Speed, mph[/TD]
[TD]21.65
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Average Heart Rate[/TD]
[TD]164
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Weight, lbs[/TD]
[TD]175
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]VAM[/TD]
[TD]543
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Device[/TD]
[TD]Edge 500 v3.000
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Stages
[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]Total Elapsed Time[/TD]
[TD]1:05:15
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ride Time (Time Moving)[/TD]
[TD]1:03:14
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Distance, mi[/TD]
[TD]21.11
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Work, kJ[/TD]
[TD]639
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Temperature, °F[/TD]
[TD]66.3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Average Power, Watts[/TD]
[TD]221
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Average Cadence[/TD]
[TD] 93[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Average Speed, mph[/TD]
[TD]21.61
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Average Heart Rate[/TD]
[TD]161
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Weight, lbs[/TD]
[TD]175
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]VAM[/TD]
[TD]546
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Device[/TD]
[TD]Unknown[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
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The 4-6 watt difference would seem like loss through the drivetrain, non? Which would mean the stages is in step with your PT.
The real test would be a sprint interval workout - lots of jumps and peaks to compare.
The real test would be a sprint interval workout - lots of jumps and peaks to compare.
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Subscribing to this too. Definitely would like to see more detail though. I'm using a powercal to track my commutes through pothole strewn streets as opposed to using my PT wheel. For average watts and TSS it's not unreasonable. The devil is in the details though - definitely interested to see if the Stages unit can track short efforts/intervals.
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