Have to say this....
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This is, of course, the right answer. But now that we've got a good Lance imbroglio going it'll get lost in the brouhaha.
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Why would normal business practice need to be a coincidence? Are you suggesting that Cannondale gets no favors in Connecticut? I don't know for sure, but I certainly wouldn't go out on that limb.
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Why are so many so butthurt over the "Trek" thing here??? It's rather humorous.
I ride a Trek. I also ride a Kona.
I really don'T GAF what I ride, or what you ride, as long as we're riding.
I ride a Trek. I also ride a Kona.
I really don'T GAF what I ride, or what you ride, as long as we're riding.
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and just think.. if you find someone's opinion you really don't want to read you can click on their profile and click "add to ignore"
Then anytime they post all you will see is
This message is hidden because therhodeo is on your ignore list.
Then anytime they post all you will see is
This message is hidden because therhodeo is on your ignore list.
Mature.
I said I don't like them and gave my reason. Now I'm on the ignore list of Trek riders. Maybe I should go back and amend my original reasons to include the over-sensitivity of the people who ride them.
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I'm not suggesting that at all but I've not seen any big glaring evidence of it.
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This is the second thread on this subject this month.
I think the problem isn't Trek bikes but their over-sensitive owners.
Cervelos get put down, Pinarello riding dentists get put down.
Get a grip, people. STFU and go ride your crappy bike.
I think the problem isn't Trek bikes but their over-sensitive owners.
Cervelos get put down, Pinarello riding dentists get put down.
Get a grip, people. STFU and go ride your crappy bike.
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I thought dentist rode Cervelos? Or is that lawyers?
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I have to say I would actually be pretty darn happy to ride one of those project one madones made in the US. Few manufacturers can claim that and as ugly as they might be I think they are better bikes than most.
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For whatever reason this is a Specialized/Cannondale oriented forum. They are both highly regarded, but I swear I think 'dales are worshipped like Biblical idols. Trek and Giant ought to be just as prominently featured, but they get no play here. At least Giant is just ignored. Trek is actively ridiculed as in the many "asplode" references. You can't mention a Trek without someone suggesting it is in imminent peril of disintegrating.
Specialized manufactures no bikes. They design bikes and have them built in Asia. Not necessarily a bad thing, just a thing. In the bike bike industry they are known for cutting edge technology, great graphics, and being d!@ks to work with.
Cannondale used to make bikes in America, but they ended that practice a while back. Almost all of the major company's have caught up with (or surpassed) C'Dales expertise with aluminium, but their new carbon bikes have received a lot of press (Sagan perhaps?). They are currently owned by a Canadian company that likes to put bikes in big box stores.
Trek makes the Madone 6 & 7 series in Waterloo, everything else is made in Asia. Trek stores are ubiquitous (Lance effect?), which for many people makes Treks mundane.
Giant is the only company of the four mentioned that doesn't have roots in the U.S. They are the largest adult bicycle manufacturer in the world and make many other company's (American and European) bikes.
My point? People buy a particular brand for different reasons- convenience, value, familiarity, bandwagon, coolness, avant garde looks and technology, and/or advice from a respected associate.
Perhaps the better question is why do we belittle other peoples choices?
Is it as rpenmanparker put it, "Face it, it is the Bike Forums equivalent of middle school bullying. The parallels between adolescent school clique behavior and bicycling poserism are amazing."
Unfortunately that seems to be the case. Every forum, every industry trade paper, and every industry media outlet I read has it's share of negative comments, boo birds, and/or people who choose to belittle other peoples choices or ideas. I just don't get it. Ride your Trek, Specialized, C'Dale, Giant, or Huffy where you want, and how you want. It's your choice, your money, and your time. Suum cuique.
Sorry to interrupt, I'll go back to work now.
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I've been visiting this forum daily since I became a member, and even browsed here before that. I've seen the '400W' and 'asplode' quite often.
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The rumor hear in Wisconsin is that Trek is changing its name to distance itself from Lance.
They will soon be known as Trekorelli.
You heard it here first.
They will soon be known as Trekorelli.
You heard it here first.
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The ignore list was actually a joke. I am not at all current on any cycling politics and who greases who's wheels so I went for a different kind of sarcasm.
I guess I should be reprimanded for not enough usage of emoticons.
I guess I should be reprimanded for not enough usage of emoticons.
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The issue is that Trek is the Nike of bikes: they are ubiqitous, they offer a huge product line spanning cheap to exotic, they are heavily marketed, they are extremely mainstream and they are slightly gimmick-prone. Just like Nike, Trek makes some world-class gear for serious athletes but some of that is lost because they just make and sell so much recreational stuff. Also, they are the one bike brand that people who know nothing about bikes have heard of. A guy who's just getting into "biking" invariably gets a Trek, keeps the dork disk on, sets the saddle too low and causes accordions in a paceline. In an environment as fashion concious, nerdy and pedantic as BF (guilty!), none of these attributes are going to be seen as good things.
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Good thing that Dodge doesn't make bikes. Now that would bring some serious bashing!
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I don't ride a trek because they cost more MSRP for the same components, and by in large, all low end bike's frames are made in the same factory with similar frame styles, just different brand names. Other then that I don't care... ride what you want. My next bike will be bought online, probably years down the road since I like my Felt. If any one brand still built low end frames in the USA I might consider them, but even that's no guarantee. I bought the made in china Kurt Kinetic trainer even though a US made brand was available, due to superior reviews and engineering.
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Sweet, now we can expand to china bashing.
Let's throw some grammar nazi in the thread too : "By in large"
This thread delivers.
Let's throw some grammar nazi in the thread too : "By in large"
This thread delivers.
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Help!
I own a Lemond Buenos Aires.
Should I feel bad because it was owned by Trek at one point?
Should I feel good because Greg was right all along?
Or should I just feel bad because my moving average speed is so low?
I own a Lemond Buenos Aires.
Should I feel bad because it was owned by Trek at one point?
Should I feel good because Greg was right all along?
Or should I just feel bad because my moving average speed is so low?
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