Build or ask LBS to do it?
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It's a little late to ask that question, isn't it? Building a bike from parts is easy and satisfying to do if you are mechanically inclined. You can't build a bike from new parts cheaper than just buying a new bike that is more or less configured the way you want. Getting a mechanic involved just ups the price.
Only you can decide if you have the skills and tool necessary to build up a bike. Working on bikes is not rocket science. Al
Only you can decide if you have the skills and tool necessary to build up a bike. Working on bikes is not rocket science. Al
I disagree, but only mildly. If you are patient and know where to look you can at times do it cheaper. The question is.. who has that kind of time and patience? I did...once, and probably won't go that route again anytime soon. Also, why exactly is it too late for the OP to ask that question?
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I disagree, but only mildly. If you are patient and know where to look you can at times do it cheaper. The question is.. who has that kind of time and patience? I did...once, and probably won't go that route again anytime soon. Also, why exactly is it too late for the OP to ask that question?
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https://www.flocycling.com/buildabike.php
E-book on the process. Be a man, bolt it together yourself. Remember to leave the housings long enough to make changes after the first couple months.
E-book on the process. Be a man, bolt it together yourself. Remember to leave the housings long enough to make changes after the first couple months.
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Any hack can put together a pile of brand new, nice bike parts. You can too. No problem. It's basically a bike shaped Lego set.
The mark of a real mechanic, however, is being able to work on junk.
Think on that for a while. It's pretty profound if I do say so myself...
The mark of a real mechanic, however, is being able to work on junk.
Think on that for a while. It's pretty profound if I do say so myself...
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Sure I can buy an ultegra carbon bike built cheaper than I can piece it together. But then I have to replace the junk bars, stem and seatpost that come on most bikes with nice Ritchey stuff. And, of course, the wheels have to go because that's where OEMs save money. If we are lucky, they didn't cheap out on the crank, but the cassette is surely a 3 lb. tiagra unit that will get tossed.
By that time, it starts to make sense to just piece the thing together. But then I may be a special (head) case.
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You make it sound like building a bicycle is a boring, tedious process. I find it fun, relaxing, and it's done faster than packing all the parts, driving to the shop, waiting until they build it (or leaving it for a day or three if they are busy), driving back home and only then being able to actually ride the bicycle.
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https://www.flocycling.com/buildabike.php
E-book on the process. Be a man, bolt it together yourself. Remember to leave the housings long enough to make changes after the first couple months.
E-book on the process. Be a man, bolt it together yourself. Remember to leave the housings long enough to make changes after the first couple months.
In all honesty, the hardest part about bike building is AFTER building it which is tuning - this is assuming you've had your fork/headset and bottom bracket installed already.
At the most you need: cable cutter, set of STURDY allen/hex keys, lube and grease
If you had all the parts and still don't know what to do with them just take it to a shop.
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In all honesty, the hardest part about bike building is AFTER building it which is tuning - this is assuming you've had your fork/headset and bottom bracket installed already.
At the most you need: cable cutter, set of STURDY allen/hex keys, lube and grease
If you had all the parts and still don't know what to do with them just ask on the mechanic forum.
At the most you need: cable cutter, set of STURDY allen/hex keys, lube and grease
If you had all the parts and still don't know what to do with them just ask on the mechanic forum.
If you have a carbon frame you'll probably want a torque wrench too (or if you have parts with titanium bolts). Steel is much more forgiving.
It's also likely that you'll run one or more cables the wrong way your first time, so if you're willing to live through the "and error" part of "trial and error" then definitely do it yourself.
As for parts being cheaper than a whole bike... I tend to swap out parts, so I'm never buying a whole bike at once. matter of fact, the last complete bike I bought was in 1992. Last February it was a new frame, the February before that it was a different new frame, got new wheels in March... at some point I'll probably entertain the idea of upgrading the components but if you have the tools and the know how you can just fix the part that's bugging you rather than buying a whole new bike. it's liberating.
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Ah yes, but you don't so much have to worry about cracking junk with too much torque.
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I agree with most all of the comments here. I would take my frame to a shop and have them install the headset as I did not have the correct press tools and why mess up a new headset but using the wrong tools for the job? And now with bottom brackets that are a bit more complex than the old square taper and shell design, it might be good to have them do that for you too.
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How did I do that?. It just takes patience to get the stuff your really want at the price you want. Remember, I was talking about building it cheaper than you can buy it. I wasn't talking about actual physical build. Slapping it all together, isn't all that time consuming and is a blast. The actual accumulation of said parts is time consuming. One should not always equate patience with tediousness. It was fun and rewarding, I just won't be doing it in the near future due to lack of free time and other priorities...
Btw, any tips on getting the shifter clamps over the bars? I could probably force it really hard if that's what I'm supposed to do...
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And chain tool and torque wrench?
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And if you are stymied this earlier, call your LBS.
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Unscrew the clamp bolt it until it is only engaged by half the nut (you can look through the inside of the clamp to tell), then slide it up and on. It may feel like a little force as the bottom of the brake lever slides over the bar, and if it feels like more than a little there is a problem.
And if you are stymied this earlier, call your LBS.
And if you are stymied this earlier, call your LBS.
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This is what I did when I built up a bike from scratch. I went to a LBS that I frequent and had the mechanic install my bottom bracket, crankset, and cassette.... from what I can recall they barely charged me anything. Everything else I was able to easily put on myself.
Except for the last step..... fine tuning the gears.
So I brought the nearly completed bike back to the LBS and simply had them adjust the front and rear derailleurs... didn't charge me a dime. And keep in mind this is for a mountain bike which is a bit more complicated. For a road bike the only thing that's going to be hard for you would be installing the bottom bracket, cassette, and tuning the gears. That's assuming if you already have some basic bike mechanic knowledge and is somewhat mechanically inclined.
If you absolutely have no clue what you're doing and have never worked on the bike before... please do yourself a favor and have the shop do it. I've seen people completely ruin a nice crankset because they didn't know you have to install the left pedal from threading in the opposite direction.
Except for the last step..... fine tuning the gears.
So I brought the nearly completed bike back to the LBS and simply had them adjust the front and rear derailleurs... didn't charge me a dime. And keep in mind this is for a mountain bike which is a bit more complicated. For a road bike the only thing that's going to be hard for you would be installing the bottom bracket, cassette, and tuning the gears. That's assuming if you already have some basic bike mechanic knowledge and is somewhat mechanically inclined.
If you absolutely have no clue what you're doing and have never worked on the bike before... please do yourself a favor and have the shop do it. I've seen people completely ruin a nice crankset because they didn't know you have to install the left pedal from threading in the opposite direction.
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This is what I did when I built up a bike from scratch. I went to a LBS that I frequent and had the mechanic install my bottom bracket, crankset, and cassette.... from what I can recall they barely charged me anything. Everything else I was able to easily put on myself.
Except for the last step..... fine tuning the gears.
So I brought the nearly completed bike back to the LBS and simply had them adjust the front and rear derailleurs... didn't charge me a dime. And keep in mind this is for a mountain bike which is a bit more complicated. For a road bike the only thing that's going to be hard for you would be installing the bottom bracket, cassette, and tuning the gears. That's assuming if you already have some basic bike mechanic knowledge and is somewhat mechanically inclined.
If you absolutely have no clue what you're doing and have never worked on the bike before... please do yourself a favor and have the shop do it. I've seen people completely ruin a nice crankset because they didn't know you have to install the left pedal from threading in the opposite direction.
Except for the last step..... fine tuning the gears.
So I brought the nearly completed bike back to the LBS and simply had them adjust the front and rear derailleurs... didn't charge me a dime. And keep in mind this is for a mountain bike which is a bit more complicated. For a road bike the only thing that's going to be hard for you would be installing the bottom bracket, cassette, and tuning the gears. That's assuming if you already have some basic bike mechanic knowledge and is somewhat mechanically inclined.
If you absolutely have no clue what you're doing and have never worked on the bike before... please do yourself a favor and have the shop do it. I've seen people completely ruin a nice crankset because they didn't know you have to install the left pedal from threading in the opposite direction.
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This is what I did when I built up a bike from scratch. I went to a LBS that I frequent and had the mechanic install my bottom bracket, crankset, and cassette.... from what I can recall they barely charged me anything. Everything else I was able to easily put on myself.
Except for the last step..... fine tuning the gears.
So I brought the nearly completed bike back to the LBS and simply had them adjust the front and rear derailleurs... didn't charge me a dime. And keep in mind this is for a mountain bike which is a bit more complicated. For a road bike the only thing that's going to be hard for you would be installing the bottom bracket, cassette, and tuning the gears. That's assuming if you already have some basic bike mechanic knowledge and is somewhat mechanically inclined.
If you absolutely have no clue what you're doing and have never worked on the bike before... please do yourself a favor and have the shop do it. I've seen people completely ruin a nice crankset because they didn't know you have to install the left pedal from threading in the opposite direction.
Except for the last step..... fine tuning the gears.
So I brought the nearly completed bike back to the LBS and simply had them adjust the front and rear derailleurs... didn't charge me a dime. And keep in mind this is for a mountain bike which is a bit more complicated. For a road bike the only thing that's going to be hard for you would be installing the bottom bracket, cassette, and tuning the gears. That's assuming if you already have some basic bike mechanic knowledge and is somewhat mechanically inclined.
If you absolutely have no clue what you're doing and have never worked on the bike before... please do yourself a favor and have the shop do it. I've seen people completely ruin a nice crankset because they didn't know you have to install the left pedal from threading in the opposite direction.
Edit: technically you don't need the chain whip to install the cassette, but if you want to take one off you'll be needing one.
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How did I do that?. It just takes patience to get the stuff your really want at the price you want. Remember, I was talking about building it cheaper than you can buy it. I wasn't talking about actual physical build. Slapping it all together, isn't all that time consuming and is a blast. The actual accumulation of said parts is time consuming. One should not always equate patience with tediousness. It was fun and rewarding, I just won't be doing it in the near future due to lack of free time and other priorities...
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Stuff I take to the shop:
- cutting steerers. I don't do it often enough to need to buy a guide. Without a guide, it can be a bit stressful. It's $15 and ten minutes for a shop to do it. Deal.
- wheel re-dish / retension / wheelbuilding. I don't have a stand, the skills or the patience. Outsource.
- facing BB or headset shells. Increasingly done at the factory, but if you need to do it, you need very expensive special tools to do it right.
I'll do everything else.
- cutting steerers. I don't do it often enough to need to buy a guide. Without a guide, it can be a bit stressful. It's $15 and ten minutes for a shop to do it. Deal.
- wheel re-dish / retension / wheelbuilding. I don't have a stand, the skills or the patience. Outsource.
- facing BB or headset shells. Increasingly done at the factory, but if you need to do it, you need very expensive special tools to do it right.
I'll do everything else.
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With the fork and headset in the frame, measure where you want it cut. Stack spacers to that point, with a spacer you don't care about on top, put hacksaw against spacer, and cut.
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